From: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RAID-6
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:22:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021112162205.GB22407@unthought.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqou9k$ou5$1@cesium.transmeta.com>
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:52:36AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm playing around with RAID-6 algorithms lately. With RAID-6 I mean
> a setup which needs N+2 disks for N disks worth of storage and can
> handle any two disks failing -- this seems to be the contemporary
> definition of RAID-6 (the originally proposed "two-dimensional parity"
> which required N+2*sqrt(N) drives never took off for obvious reasons.)
>
> Based on my current research, I think the following should be true:
>
> a) write performance will be worse than RAID-5, but I believe it can
> be kept to within a factor of 1.5-2.0 on machines with suitable
> SIMD instruction sets (e.g. MMX or SSE-2);
Please note that raw CPU power is usually *not* a limiting (or even
significantly contributing) factor, on modern systems.
Limitations are disk reads/writes/seeks, bus bandwidth, etc.
You will probably cause more bus activity with RAID-6, and that might
degrade performance. But I don't think you need to worry about
MMX/SSE/... If you can do as well as the current RAID-5 code, then you
will be in the clear until people have 1GB/sec disk transfer-rates on
500MHz PIII systems ;)
>
> b) read performance in normal and single failure degraded mode will be
> comparable to RAID-5;
Which again is like a RAID-0 with some extra seeks... Eg. not too bad
with huge chunk sizes.
You might want to consider using huge chunk-sizes when reading, but
making sure that writes can be made on "sub-chunks" - so that one could
run a RAID-6 with a 128k chunk size, yet have writes performed on 4k
chunks. This is important for performance on both read and write, but
it is an optimization the current RAID-5 code lacks.
>
> c) read performance in dual failure degraded mode will be quite bad.
>
> I'm curious how much interest there would be in this, since I
> certainly have enough projects without it, and I'm probably going to
> need some of Neil's time to integrate it into the md driver and the
> tools.
I've seen quite some people ask for it. You might find a friend in "Roy
Sigurd Karlsbach" - he for one has been asking (loudly) for it ;)
Go Peter! ;)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-12 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-11 18:52 RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
2002-11-11 21:06 ` RAID-6 Derek Vadala
2002-11-11 22:44 ` RAID-6 Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-11-11 23:05 ` RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
2002-11-12 16:22 ` Jakob Oestergaard [this message]
2002-11-12 16:30 ` RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
2002-11-12 19:01 ` RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
2002-11-12 19:37 ` RAID-6 Neil Brown
2002-11-13 2:13 ` RAID-6 Jakob Oestergaard
2002-11-13 3:33 ` RAID-6 Neil Brown
2002-11-13 12:29 ` RAID-6 Jakob Oestergaard
2002-11-13 17:33 ` RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
2002-11-13 18:07 ` RAID-6 Peter L. Ashford
2002-11-13 22:50 ` RAID-6 Neil Brown
2002-11-13 18:42 ` RAID-6 Peter L. Ashford
2002-11-13 22:48 ` RAID-6 Neil Brown
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.30.0211111138080.15590-100000@multivac.sdsc.edu>
2002-11-11 19:47 ` RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-13 9:05 Raid-6 Rebuild question Brad Campbell
2005-11-13 10:05 ` Neil Brown
2005-11-16 17:54 ` RAID-6 Bill Davidsen
2005-11-16 20:39 ` RAID-6 Dan Stromberg
2005-12-29 18:29 ` RAID-6 H. Peter Anvin
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