From: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
To: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:09:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021120190936.GA11446@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10211201055310.3892-100000@master.linux-ide.org>
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:57:58AM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote:
> On 20 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 04:26, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:59:26AM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > > You can copyright songs, but not individual musical notes.
> > > >
> > > > Likewise, snippets of code aren't copyrightable if they're below
> > > > a certain "triviality size".
> > >
> > > I don't pretend to be current on all the issues involved, but I've
> > > always been under the impression that Linus has insisted that
> > > binary-only drivers aren't derived works, with respect to the GPL.
> >
> > Linus has said much the reverse if you look back. Being a module doesnt
> > make it not a derivative work. In some ways thats not even directly
> > relevant
>
> The double negative unwrapped:
>
> "Being a module doesnt make it not a derivative work."
>
> 'Being a module does (not) make it not a derivative work.'
> 'Being a module does (not) make it (not) a derivative work.'
>
> 'Being a module does make it a derivative work.'
>
> Is this the intent of the statement?
That's faulty grammar and faulty logic. "A" does not require "not B".
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-20 19:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-19 22:09 spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules Jeff Garzik
2002-11-20 1:52 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-20 2:48 ` Josh Myer
2002-11-20 2:59 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-20 4:26 ` Ross Vandegrift
2002-11-20 6:41 ` archaios
2002-11-20 5:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 5:24 ` Jon Portnoy
2002-11-20 5:47 ` GPL rant -- was: " Zac Hansen
2002-11-20 14:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 18:57 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 19:09 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-11-20 19:32 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 19:33 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 19:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 18:57 ` Thomas Langås
2002-11-20 19:15 ` Dana Lacoste
2002-11-20 18:32 ` nick
2002-11-20 19:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 19:16 ` nick
2002-11-21 2:25 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-21 5:10 ` TAINTED (Re: spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules) Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 2:49 ` spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules David McIlwraith
2002-11-20 3:06 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-20 8:12 ` Mark Mielke
2002-11-20 10:17 ` Xavier Bestel
2002-11-20 14:19 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 14:09 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-20 18:54 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 19:31 ` Cort Dougan
2002-11-20 19:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 19:44 ` Cort Dougan
2002-11-20 19:55 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 20:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-20 21:15 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 22:03 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 22:09 ` Rik van Riel
2002-11-20 22:15 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 22:43 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 22:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 22:36 ` Larry McVoy
2002-11-20 23:16 ` Eli Carter
2002-11-20 20:49 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-20 20:01 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-20 20:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-11-20 18:25 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-21 10:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-11-21 13:08 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-21 17:02 ` Mark Mielke
2002-11-22 0:00 ` Andre Hedrick
2002-11-21 17:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-11-22 6:19 ` Mark Mielke
2002-11-20 4:12 ` Some like it HOT! (Re: spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules) Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 6:21 ` spinlocks, the GPL, and binary-only modules Andre Hedrick
2002-11-20 7:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-20 3:03 David McIlwraith
2002-11-20 6:31 Samium Gromoff
2002-11-20 8:27 ` Mark Mielke
2002-11-20 19:09 Nicholas Berry
[not found] <fa.fglehrv.95g32b@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.h7et98v.hjm1of@ifi.uio.no>
2002-11-21 0:03 ` Russ Allbery
[not found] <fa.ni4tkev.3ge008@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.onsrmsv.1g08thi@ifi.uio.no>
2002-11-21 9:05 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-11-21 16:54 Herman Oosthuysen
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