From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from jazzband.ncsc.mil (jazzband.ncsc.mil [144.51.5.4]) by tycho.ncsc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14347 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from jazzband.ncsc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jazzband.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id OAA03990 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:08:58 GMT Received: from hellcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil (hellcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil [204.222.179.34]) by jazzband.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id OAA03986 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:08:58 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jesse Pollard To: Russell Coker , "Stephen D. Smalley" , selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Subject: Re: expect Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:09:20 -0600 References: <200211292002.PAA23890@moss-shockers.ncsc.mil> <200212011308.58878.russell@coker.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200212011308.58878.russell@coker.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200212020809.20563.pollard@admin.navo.hpc.mil> Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov On Sunday 01 December 2002 06:08 am, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:02, Stephen D. Smalley wrote: > > > Due to what I believe to be bugs in expect, the new open_init_pty > > > program will not work correctly with old versions of expect. Version > > > 5.38.0 works fine, version 5.32.2 is broken. I don't know when the bug > > > was fixed exactly. > > > > I've backed out the open_init_pty changes to our internal copy of > > run_init. I'd rather not have the base run_init functionality dependent > > on a particular version of expect, and I'm not even sure that it is > > wise to depend on having expect installed at all. > > I will not do the same for my Debian packages. > > I can see the benefit in having two options available for users in this > case, as some smaller devices such as PDAs may not have space for expect. > But Debian is a heavy distribution primarily designed for workstations and > servers. Debian works well on laptops too but is not designed to scale > down any further than that. So I think that there is no reason not to > depend on expect. > > I have made my Debian packages depend on the appropriate version of expect > so you can just install the packages and be sure that the right things are > automatically installed. IMHO not the best solution, since the existance of "expect" depends entirely on local policy. At our site, it is not to be installed without a LOT of justification first, and only with policy wavers on an individual basis. Making it mandatory for the system to function would mean that the Debian distribution will not be permitted. This isn't a major problem for us, at least, since we have standardized on RH. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesse I Pollard, II Email: pollard@navo.hpc.mil Any opinions expressed are solely my own. -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.