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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Norman Gaywood <norm@turing.une.edu.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Maybe a VM bug in 2.4.18-18 from RH 8.0?
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:14:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021206061446.GA11023@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021206054804.GK1567@dualathlon.random>

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:48:04AM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> you should because it seems you didn't realize how my code works. the
> algorithm is autotuned at boot and depends on the zone sizes, and it
> applies to the dma zone too with respect to the normal zone, the highmem
> case is just one of the cases that the fix for the general problem
> resolves, and you're totally wrong saying that mlocking 700m on a 4G box
> could kill it. I call it the per-claszone point of view watermark. If
> you are capable of highmem (mlock users are) you must left 100M or 10M
> or 10G free on the normal zone (depends on the watermark setting tuned
> at boot that is calculated in function of the zone sizes) etc... so it
> doesn't matter if you mlock 700M or 700G, it can't kill it. The split
> doesn't matter at all. 2.5 misses this important fix too btw.
> If you ignore this bugfix people will notice and there's no other way
> to fix it completely (unless you want to drop the zone-normal and
> zone-dma enterely, actually zone-dma matters much less because even if
> it exists basically nobody uses it).

This problem is not universal; pure GFP_KERNEL allocations are the main
problem here. The fix is necessary for anti-google bits but not a
panacea for all workloads. The issue here is basically forkbombs (i.e.
databases) with potentially high cross-process sharing.

Bill

  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-06  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-06  0:13 Maybe a VM bug in 2.4.18-18 from RH 8.0? Norman Gaywood
2002-12-06  1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  1:17   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  1:34     ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  1:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  2:15         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06  2:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  2:41             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06  5:25               ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  5:48                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  6:14                   ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2002-12-06  6:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  7:14                     ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06  7:25                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06  7:34                         ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06  7:51                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-06 11:37                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-12-06 16:19                             ` GrandMasterLee
2002-12-06 14:57                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 15:12                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:32                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 23:45                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:57                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06  6:00                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 22:28               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-06 23:21                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 23:50                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07  0:30                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  0:01                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07  0:21                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  0:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07  2:19                       ` Alan Cox
2002-12-07  1:46                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  1:56                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07  2:31                           ` Alan Cox
2002-12-07  2:09                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07  0:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07  0:35                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-12-07  0:46                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-07 10:55                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 10:36           ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-06 14:23             ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 15:12               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-12-06 22:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-12-07 18:27                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-12-06  1:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <mailman.1039133948.27411.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-12-06  0:35 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-12-06  1:27   ` Norman Gaywood
2002-12-06 12:48     ` Rik van Riel

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