* boot sequence
@ 2002-12-10 19:57 dave
2002-12-11 2:00 ` dashielljt
2002-12-11 6:30 ` Joseph D. Wagner
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: dave @ 2002-12-10 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
I'm having a problem with MySQL starting on boot and I don't quit understand
the boot sequence of Mandrake 9.0. What files get executed and where they
are located. Anyone have a link to a writeup about this? Thanks for your
time.
Dave Pomeroy K7DNP SouthWestern Washington
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* Re: boot sequence
2002-12-10 19:57 boot sequence dave
@ 2002-12-11 2:00 ` dashielljt
2002-12-11 6:30 ` Joseph D. Wagner
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From: dashielljt @ 2002-12-11 2:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dave; +Cc: linux-newbie
ARG! I can't get mysql to do anything useful no matter how I start it up.
Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net>
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* RE: boot sequence
2002-12-10 19:57 boot sequence dave
2002-12-11 2:00 ` dashielljt
@ 2002-12-11 6:30 ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-11 7:11 ` Ray Olszewski
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From: Joseph D. Wagner @ 2002-12-11 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'dave', 'linux-newbie'
This is a discussion for a Mandrake mailing list, not the Linux kernel.
-----Original Message-----
From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:57 PM
To: linux-newbie
Subject: boot sequence
I'm having a problem with MySQL starting on boot and I don't quit understand
the boot sequence of Mandrake 9.0. What files get executed and where they
are located. Anyone have a link to a writeup about this? Thanks for your
time.
Dave Pomeroy K7DNP SouthWestern Washington
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* RE: boot sequence
2002-12-11 6:30 ` Joseph D. Wagner
@ 2002-12-11 7:11 ` Ray Olszewski
2002-12-11 7:19 ` Joseph D. Wagner
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From: Ray Olszewski @ 2002-12-11 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joseph D. Wagner, 'linux-newbie'
Joseph -- I think you may have gotten this list mixed up with some other
list that you subscribe to. This list (linux-newbie) is a list for Linux
beginners to ask general questions on, NOT a list for Linux kernel
questions (at least, not exclusively). While I don't know Mandrake so
cannot myself answer Dave's original question, it is hardly inappropriate
for a beginner's list.
At 12:30 AM 12/11/02 -0600, Joseph D. Wagner wrote:
>This is a discussion for a Mandrake mailing list, not the Linux kernel.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org
>[mailto:linux-newbie-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of dave
>Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:57 PM
>To: linux-newbie
>Subject: boot sequence
>
>I'm having a problem with MySQL starting on boot and I don't quit understand
>
>the boot sequence of Mandrake 9.0. What files get executed and where they
>are located. Anyone have a link to a writeup about this? Thanks for your
>time.
>Dave Pomeroy K7DNP SouthWestern Washington
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* RE: boot sequence
2002-12-11 7:11 ` Ray Olszewski
@ 2002-12-11 7:19 ` Joseph D. Wagner
2002-12-11 7:56 ` Ray Olszewski
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From: Joseph D. Wagner @ 2002-12-11 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Ray Olszewski', dave; +Cc: 'linux-newbie'
> Joseph -- I think you may have gotten this list
> mixed up with some other list that you subscribe
> to. This list (linux-newbie) is a list for Linux
> beginners to ask general questions on, NOT a list
> for Linux kernel questions (at least, not exclusively).
Yeah, but Dave CC'ed that list too.
> While I don't know Mandrake so cannot myself answer
> Dave's original question, it is hardly inappropriate
> for a beginner's list.
That's just my point. His question is about a specific distribution of
Linux -- Mandrake. That's too specific for this list. I'm not saying it's
inappropriate; I'm just saying he'd get a better response from a list
specifically designed for Mandrake Linux, rather than posting to a general
Linux list.
Joseph Wagner
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* RE: boot sequence
2002-12-11 7:19 ` Joseph D. Wagner
@ 2002-12-11 7:56 ` Ray Olszewski
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From: Ray Olszewski @ 2002-12-11 7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joseph D. Wagner, dave; +Cc: 'linux-newbie'
Dave -- a try at answering your original question is at the end of this
message. In between is some reaction to Joseph's thoughts about what is and
is not appropriate for this list.
At 01:19 AM 12/11/02 -0600, Joseph D. Wagner wrote:
> > Joseph -- I think you may have gotten this list
> > mixed up with some other list that you subscribe
> > to. This list (linux-newbie) is a list for Linux
> > beginners to ask general questions on, NOT a list
> > for Linux kernel questions (at least, not exclusively).
>
>Yeah, but Dave CC'ed that list too.
How did you determine this? The copy of Dave's message that I received
here, the one that came through this list, does not show any Cc's. If he
posted to some kernel list separately, why drag linux-newbie into it at all
by cc'ing your reply to *that* message here?
> > While I don't know Mandrake so cannot myself answer
> > Dave's original question, it is hardly inappropriate
> > for a beginner's list.
>
>That's just my point. His question is about a specific distribution of
>Linux -- Mandrake. That's too specific for this list. I'm not saying it's
>inappropriate; I'm just saying he'd get a better response from a list
>specifically designed for Mandrake Linux, rather than posting to a general
>Linux list.
How long have you subscribed to linux-newbie? I regularly see here
questions that are specific to Red Hat, Slackware, and Debian ... probably
SuSE and Mandrake too, though I can't recall any specifically. Also
BasicLinux ... its creator even steers his users to this list by name. This
all seems very reasonable to me. When you are a beginner, in a sense *all*
your questions are specific to the distro you have installed ... at least
you don't know enough to know which are distro-specific, which are not ...
in fact, I have a bigger problem with the occasional poster who asks a
question but does not mention which distro he or she is using.
And the distro-specific lists are (in my, admittedly limited, experience)
sometimes populated by people with little patience for beginner-level
questions, folks who think "RTFM" is a helpful (or at least an appropriate)
reply to a beginner. This list has a fairly long tradition of treating
beginners a bit more graciously than I've seen elsewhere.
In fact, I suspect that Dave will learn that his initialization problems
are not specific to Mandrake. In that spirit, perhaps a general answer will
help him, so ...
... after the kernel is loaded, it starts the "init" process. That process
refers to the file /etc/inittab to determine (a) what runlevel to use and
(b) what init scripts to run. Typical inittab files have init first start
up in single-user mode and run a script listed on the "si" line (Debian
example: "si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS"), then switch to the default
runlevel and run a script listed on the line for that runlevel (Debian
example: "l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2" for runlevel 2).
Commonly, each of these scripts is a "wrapper" script that in turn runs a
collection of scripts identified by symlinks in a directory specific to
that runlevel; in Debian, for example, the single-user script runs all
scripts with symlinks having names that begin with "S" in /etc/rcS.d/, then
the runlevel-2 script runs all scripts with symlinks having names that
begin with "S" in /etc/rc2.d . The details (particularly the directory
names) will differ with Mandrake, but it, like every major distro (except
maybe Slackware and its derivatives), follows this general procedure
closely enough that you (Dave) can probably trace the init sequence by
starting at /etc/inittab and seeing what scripts it tells init to run when
the system starts up.
Hope this helps. If not, please do post more specific follow-up questions.
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