From: "Dimitrie O. Paun" <dpaun@rogers.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: lm@bitmover.com, acahalan@cs.uml.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently"
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 01:44:35 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301090144.35808.dpaun@rogers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E18WX6e-0001Xj-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
On January 9, 2003 02:28 am, Richard Stallman wrote:
> These discussions will never convince those people, but they do win
> support from others who read both sides and find that we have right on
> our side. So we have something to gain.
I have not touched upon the principle side of things on purpose:
what I'm trying to say is that it does not matter how's right or wrong.
Yes, you can say your campain gains people on the GNU/Linux side, and
you are correct -- it would in any case, it's just the law of large
numbers. You can view that as a gain, and I don't dispute that, but
that gain comes at a huge price: you greatly erode your credibility
and stature within the community. You can use your influence within
the community in ways that would server the FSF a _lot_ more effectively.
Yes, you will say, but we are _right_. Well, you might be. But the
world is not a fair place, and sometimes you have to accept that.
There is unfairness all over the place: you take credit for other
people's work by putting under the GNU umbrella a lot of stuff you
did not write. That's unfair. Is it fair that Alexandre Julliard,
the Wine (http://www.winehq.org) project leader is listed in a list
together with 200+ other developers that contributed a tiny fraction
of what Alexandre did? No, it's not. There are endless examples of
these in the free software world. Once can not simply state the names
and importance (and _how_ would you gauge *that*?) of every single
contributor when you refer to the system.
And because people like a simple mnemonic, they chose one: Linux.
You would have liked they pick the acronym you invented, but they
didn't. People have chosen. It's a tiny detail in the grand scheme
of things, let's be all happy that a catchy acronym was invented
and addopted, and move on!
--
Dimi.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-09 7:54 UTC|newest]
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2003-01-05 8:02 Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Albert D. Cahalan
2003-01-06 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-06 17:37 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-06 19:40 ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-06 23:33 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 15:47 ` Disconnect
2003-01-07 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-07 14:26 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08 8:00 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-08 13:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-09 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-10 5:33 ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-10 6:07 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-10 6:31 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-10 14:17 ` Charles Cazabon
2003-01-11 1:36 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11 4:06 ` John Jasen
2003-01-11 7:13 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08 21:29 ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-09 2:26 ` Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-09 8:57 ` John Alvord
2003-01-09 15:18 ` What's in a name? Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-09 16:11 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-09 16:51 ` venom
2003-01-09 17:48 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-10 9:52 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Richard Stallman
2003-01-10 16:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-10 18:38 ` Names as origin component paths Mark Mielke
2003-01-10 18:41 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Rogier Wolff
2003-01-12 11:55 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-12 12:27 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-13 14:32 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 17:09 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-13 17:22 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 17:37 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-13 18:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-14 18:55 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-14 19:06 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-14 19:56 ` [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Dax Kelson
2003-01-14 20:02 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-14 20:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-14 20:36 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-14 20:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-15 23:28 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-14 21:08 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-14 21:51 ` Chris Funderburg
2003-01-14 22:13 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-14 22:27 ` Wakko Warner
2003-01-15 16:39 ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-16 23:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-01-15 23:28 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-16 2:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-18 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-18 0:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-19 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-19 5:55 ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-18 3:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-18 14:23 ` andrea.glorioso
2003-01-20 0:50 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-20 1:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-21 18:17 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-21 18:30 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-21 18:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-07-20 2:42 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 19:30 ` Brian McGroarty
2003-07-20 22:00 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-01-16 5:23 ` Steve Lee
2003-01-18 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-20 13:38 ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-22 9:59 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-22 10:19 ` Paulo Andre'
2003-01-22 11:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-01-22 12:56 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-22 16:21 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-23 11:37 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-23 13:17 ` Murray J. Root
2003-01-23 18:15 ` Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-24 0:41 ` [PATCH] [2.4.20] dead code: remove /proc/sys/vm/kswapd Lamont Granquist
2003-07-20 2:27 ` [OFFTOPIC] RMS and reactions to him Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 8:09 ` Florian Weimer
2003-07-20 8:49 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 10:55 ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-20 21:52 ` Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
2003-07-20 22:09 ` Wichert Akkerman
2003-07-20 22:38 ` David Lloyd
2003-01-22 16:44 ` John Alvord
2003-01-23 1:31 ` Nick Matteo
2003-01-20 16:52 ` Jerry Cooperstein
2003-01-22 17:14 ` Jan Harkes
2003-01-14 20:27 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-01-14 21:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 8:42 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-01-14 21:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 12:47 ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-01-14 20:15 ` Abramo Bagnara
2003-01-14 21:32 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 12:44 ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-01-14 22:20 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2003-01-13 17:51 ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-14 18:54 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:39 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-10 0:01 ` Linux/Hurd vs GNU/Linux (was Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently") Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-07 16:18 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-08 2:29 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09 7:20 ` "Mother" == "computer-illiterate" Val Henson
2003-01-09 8:05 ` J Sloan
2003-01-09 13:14 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09 14:35 ` Kent Borg
2003-01-09 19:40 ` Val Henson
2003-01-09 20:21 ` jlnance
2003-01-09 20:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-10 1:34 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-09 20:46 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-01-09 21:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-09 21:11 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-01-12 11:56 ` Kristian Koehntopp
2003-01-09 23:11 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-09 22:41 ` John Adams
2003-01-10 1:24 ` Chris Adams
2003-01-10 2:15 ` jdow
2003-01-10 3:20 ` Val Henson
2003-01-10 4:23 ` Tom Diehl
2003-01-10 10:35 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-01-10 7:04 ` Tim Timmerman
2003-01-09 7:28 ` Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 6:44 ` Dimitrie O. Paun [this message]
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2003-01-03 23:06 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-03 21:52 Steven Barnhart
2003-01-04 0:18 ` Florian Weimer
2003-01-03 21:50 NVidia " Steven Barnhart
2003-01-03 20:31 Nvidia " Richard Stallman
2003-01-03 21:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-03 21:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
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