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From: Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>
To: Shawn Starr <shawn.starr@datawire.net>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:00:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030110170038.GD23375@codemonkey.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200301101139.57342.shawn.starr@datawire.net>

On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:39:57AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote:
 > There will be a new kernel tree that will fit this purpose soon called -xlk 
 > (eXtendable or Extended Linux Kernel). The hope to make it an 'official' like 
 > -ac, -mm tree for stuffing experimental stuff into a post 2.6 (or just before 
 > 2.6 goes live) kernel. I will need help in getting this to become a reality 
 > in the coming months to 2.6.

The effort is really much better spent trying to get to 2.6 first before
worrying about things like 2.7.  I hope 2.6 doesn't turn into the
"heres my 2.4+preempt+rmap patchset" monster that we saw six months ago.
 
 > We want code that will add new drivers / devices and general 
 > improvements to the kernel.

non-core changes (ie, new drivers) still get added during code freeze,
and during 2.6.x, there's no need for a specific tree just for this.
Adding a new driver doesn't (or at least shouldn't) impact any existing
users if done right.
 
 > The goal is once these are stabilized they can be 
 > submitted to Linus and friends for blessings and inclusion into 2.7 dev 
 > *early* so we won't have a mad rush for features before the next feature 
 > freeze.

Nice try. It'll still happen regardless. Bombing Linus with ten zillion
patches when he opens up 2.7.x with "has been tested in 2.6-xyz" isn't
the way to do it. Everything has to happen incrementally, or you end
up with a mess.

		Dave

-- 
| Dave Jones.        http://www.codemonkey.org.uk
| SuSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-10 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-10 16:39 any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Shawn Starr
2003-01-10 17:00 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2003-01-11 20:10 ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <20030113001006$005c@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113005007$4766@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113170014$20a1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-18 10:21     ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found] <20030112193012$71b2@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113020015$6883@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113023015$66a6@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030113030011$6563@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030113035007$451e@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 20:18         ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found] <20030112205008$7a5d@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030113112009$52fd@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030113144017$68de@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 20:01     ` Kai Henningsen
     [not found] <20030112201009$1534@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030112204005$7287@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-14 19:53   ` Kai Henningsen
2003-01-15 15:07     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-15 15:18       ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-18 10:12       ` Kai Henningsen
2003-01-15 19:44     ` Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-13 22:37 Albert D. Cahalan
2003-01-13 20:37 Manfred Spraul
     [not found] <3C6BEE8B5E1BAC42905A93F13004E8AB017DE60F@mailse01.axis.se>
2003-01-12 20:58 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 18:02 David Truog
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     [not found] ` <20030110165505$38d9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-11 12:27   ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 13:01     ` Russell King
2003-01-11 13:13       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 14:39     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 14:06       ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 15:31         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 15:25           ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 19:18             ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13  3:33               ` Paul Mackerras
2003-01-13 14:59                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:36                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-19 16:05         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <20030110144325.T26554@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
     [not found] ` <20030110.130023.08256524.davem@redhat.com>
2003-01-10 21:48   ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-01-10 16:10 William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-10 16:28 ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 16:41   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-10 17:08     ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-10 16:40   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:06   ` Dave Jones
2003-01-10 17:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-10 17:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-10 18:47       ` J.A. Magallon
2003-01-10 19:37         ` Matthew D. Pitts
2003-01-10 19:51         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-01-14  1:39       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-01-10 18:16     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-10 17:37   ` Jochen Friedrich
2003-01-10 17:38     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12  9:27   ` Greg KH
2003-01-12 16:55     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 17:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 17:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:34           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:37             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:53               ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:03                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 15:43                   ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 15:49                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:25                       ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:26                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 16:41                           ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 16:43                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 17:00                               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 18:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-13 22:14                                   ` Keith Owens
2003-01-13 22:42                                     ` John Levon
2003-01-13 22:49                                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-13 23:32                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13 23:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-12 20:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 21:22                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-01-12 20:45                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 13:14                   ` Bernd Schmidt
2003-01-18 13:04                 ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 19:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 19:59               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:18                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-12 20:23                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 20:26                   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 20:32                   ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 20:51                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-13  0:54                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 20:46                   ` Kevin Puetz
2003-01-13  0:48                   ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-18 13:07                   ` Folkert van Heusden
2003-01-12 20:20                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-12 20:33                   ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 20:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 10:54                       ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-13 11:09                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-01-13 14:34                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-13 23:23                         ` Bob Taylor
2003-01-12 20:48                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:59                     ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-13 11:07                     ` Helge Hafting
2003-01-13  3:30                   ` yodaiken
2003-01-12 21:29                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-13  0:03                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-01-13  0:38                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 16:51                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-12 19:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-12 19:41               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 19:58                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:07                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 20:31                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 20:34                     ` David Ford
2003-01-12 20:31             ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 21:02               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:15             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-12 21:27               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:44                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 21:49                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:07                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:18                         ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:34                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:52                             ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 23:11                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:31                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:39                                 ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:46                                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:57                                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13  0:08                                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13 16:02                                         ` Terje Eggestad
2003-01-12 22:53                             ` Sean Neakums
2003-01-12 23:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:48                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 21:58                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:12                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:29                         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-01-12 23:21                         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-12 22:12                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:18                       ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-01-12 22:35                         ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  8:15                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-01-12 21:49                 ` David Ford
2003-01-12 21:59                 ` Adam Kropelin
2003-01-12 22:21                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:33                     ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-12 22:36                     ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 22:38                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:42                     ` romieu
2003-01-13  1:06                     ` Randy Dunlap
2003-01-13  1:21                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  1:51                         ` Nuno Monteiro
2003-01-13  2:19                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  2:51                             ` Marcelo Pacheco
2003-01-13  3:37                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  4:53                               ` Billy Rose
2003-01-13  3:06                             ` Jochen Striepe
2003-01-13  3:40                               ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-13  9:45                             ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  3:48                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  4:37                   ` Billy Rose
2003-01-12 22:06                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:22                   ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 22:43                     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 22:51                       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:00                         ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 23:16                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-01-12 23:05                         ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:23                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-12 23:45                             ` Emiliano Gabrielli
2003-01-13 20:01                             ` Horst von Brand
2003-01-12 23:16                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-13  2:00                         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-13  3:09                           ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-14  2:13                             ` Rik van Riel
2003-01-12 22:58                     ` Robert Love
2003-01-12 22:28                 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-01-13  1:26                 ` David Lang
2003-01-13  2:00                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-01-13 22:02                 ` Val Henson
2003-01-13 13:08             ` Dave Jones
2003-01-13 13:40               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-13 13:49               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-14  6:52               ` Bruce Harada
2003-01-14  7:12                 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-01-13 15:23             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13  6:23           ` Greg KH
2003-01-13 16:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 18:33               ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13 19:17                 ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-12 17:37       ` Russell King
2003-01-13  1:08 ` Michael Kingsbury
2003-01-13  1:52   ` William Lee Irwin III

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