From: Ryan Pavlik <rpav@nwlink.com>
To: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: MTP/AV / Sequencer MIDI problem... design issue?
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:59:08 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030111165908.386c27c4.rpav@nwlink.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200301112332.h0BNW6X8017892@spider.tela.com>
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:31:51 -0500
Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
<snip>
> not really. the mtpav is a "non-standard" device that uses special
> values in the datastream to switch its output port. the ALSA sequencer
> can't know this, and so it can't have any idea that strange things are
> happening at the hardware level.
That's what drivers are for. ;) The ALSA sequencer shouldn't have to
know of course, but the driver should be able to handle it, and the
architecture should allow a working driver.
Nothing is "standard", anyway... I would contend that if the system
has to consider something "nonstandard" and treat is specially, when
it's just like any other device (pick a midi device at random), then the
system is wrong.
I do not believe, however, ALSA is this way.
> another example of this that i know a bit more about is on the
> tropez+. this has two MIDI output ports, and you can switch between
> them with 2 "unused" MIDI bytes. what should ALSA do if you deliver
> those bytes in a data stream? how can it know what they will do? why
> should it pay any attention at all to them?
It should pay attention because it's a universal sound architecture that
provides software from low-level driver to API. The low-level driver
is all that needs to know about this. The higher-level interface
probably does not.
I'm sure all this has been discussed before---I see evidence of it in
the very design and generalization of ALSA itself. I can't imagine this
design is by accident.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-12 0:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-01-10 19:37 MTP/AV / Sequencer MIDI problem... design issue? Ryan Pavlik
2003-01-11 13:55 ` Paul Davis
2003-01-11 18:30 ` Ryan Pavlik
2003-01-11 23:31 ` Paul Davis
2003-01-12 0:59 ` Ryan Pavlik [this message]
2003-01-12 1:50 ` Paul Davis
2003-01-12 4:37 ` Ryan Pavlik
2003-01-12 9:57 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-01-11 14:46 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-01-12 1:02 ` Ryan Pavlik
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