From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from jazzswing.ncsc.mil (jazzswing.ncsc.mil [144.51.68.65]) by tycho.ncsc.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21390 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from jazzswing.ncsc.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jazzswing.ncsc.mil with ESMTP id CAA25664 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:07:05 GMT Received: from ultraviolet.org (wsip68-15-17-90.sd.sd.cox.net [68.15.17.90]) by jazzswing.ncsc.mil with SMTP id CAA25660 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:06:49 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:09:16 -0800 From: Tracy R Reed To: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Subject: NSA and GPL? Message-ID: <20030127180916.B18939@ultraviolet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GpGaEY17fSl8rd50" Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk" Content-Disposition: inline --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope this hasn't been hashed over before but the following email came across the local LUG mailing list and I was wondering if anyone had any comment on it. Did the NSA really not understand the implications of the GPL when they started the project? How is that possible? --=20 Tracy Reed http://www.ultraviolet.org --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: treed@ultraviolet.org Received: (qmail 9227 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jan 2003 01:48:53 -0000 Received: from sparkplug.kernel-panic.org (HELO kernel-panic.org) (216.188.24.190) by 192.168.123.165 with SMTP; 28 Jan 2003 01:48:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 24642 invoked by uid 529); 28 Jan 2003 01:49:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact kplug-list-help@kernel-panic.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes Reply-to: kplug-list@kernel-panic.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list kplug-list@kernel-panic.org Received: (qmail 24636 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2003 01:49:03 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: Ray Simard Organization: Sylvan Glade Infosys To: kplug-list@kernel-panic.org Subject: MicroSophistry Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:48:16 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200301271748.16645.ray.simard@sylvan-glade.com> X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.227418, version=0.9.0.3 =46rom the "Ignorance is not only bliss; it's ubiquitous" Dept. >http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?Action=3DComments&Article= ID=3D27104 "Re: Congressman attacking 'open source' Actually, rather than attacking = 'open=20 source' per se, the Congressman was attacking the GPL, the Gnu Public=20 License. (The Congressman, being just a mouthpiece, anyway, probably did = not=20 fully understand what he is doing.) Microsoft takes a very dim view of th= e=20 GPL, as you know, and would argue that it makes it difficult for commerci= al=20 software developers to use in commercial software, things which have appe= ared=20 in open source under the GPL. Microsoft is going to be floating legislati= on=20 to break the GPL." echo "..commercial software developers to use in commercial software..." = | \=20 bs2txt -MS =2E..us to keep for ourseves... =3D=3D=3D=20 " 'Others in the government don't share Smith's opinion, however, with th= e=20 Pentagon, NSA and other agencies embracing Linux and other open source=20 solutions.' "Given the fact that Dick Schafer, a deputy director of the NSA, publicly= =20 announced his agency's reversal on their support for the Security Enhance= d=20 Linux project (=E2=80=9CWe didn=E2=80=99t fully understand the consequenc= es of releasing=20 software under the GPL=E2=80=9D said Mr. Schafer and noted that the GPL i= ssue created=20 so many problems for the security agency that =E2=80=9Cwe won't be doing = anything=20 like that again.=E2=80=9D) in August 2002, I think that "embracing" might= be too=20 strong a word..." I'd like to find out more about this. Sounds like a believer in=20 security-through-obscurity at NSA. Ray S. -- http://www.kernel-panic.org list archives http://www.ultraviolet.org To unsubscribe, send a message to the address shown in the list-unsubscribe header of this message. --HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk-- --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAj415kwACgkQ9PIYKZYVAq0QoACeLCYSzrRl8R5aOGObxLLr81pb +PUAoIHsuntqLlxZPR4msfZOhvQX2mVj =CLom -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GpGaEY17fSl8rd50-- -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.