RE: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

RE: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

["Beerse, Corné"]

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Why did nobody point to the hardware database: http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/

There are some users of a D210 reported there:
http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/view.php3?type=machine&name=D210

They will know some ins and outs.

CBee


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsoe0708@tiscali.be [mailto:jsoe0708@tiscali.be]
> Sent: donderdag 19 december 2002 18:38
> To: grundler@dsl2.external.hp.com
> Cc: Ed Schaller; parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20
> 
> 
> Hi Grant,
> 
> >
> >On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:12:03AM +0100, jsoe0708@tiscali.be wrote:
> >> Just to avoid you loose time here is a diff:
> >...
> >> -	if (ee_data[27] == 0) {		/* No valid media table. */
> >> +	if (ee_data[27] == 0 || ee_data[ee_data[27]] == 0) {  
> /* No valid media
> >> table. */
> >
> >Like I suspected, backing out this change made add-on boards 
> work again.
> >I've reverted that change in 2.4.20-pa15 along with a traps.c change.
> >Please apply by hand and try the 4-port again.
> >
> Sorry, I was too tired yesterday evening and have not time today :-(.
> 
> But I see that Ed successfully tested. Great (I will also 
> test it, ... next
> year :))
> 
> Thanks for all and let me wish you and your families a Merry 
> Christmas and
> a Happy New Year,
>     Joel
> 
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Michael S.Zick]

On Thursday 30 January 2003 04:59 am, Beerse, Corné wrote:
> Why did nobody point to the hardware database:
> http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/
>
> There are some users of a D210 reported there:
> http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/view.php3?type=machine&name=D210
>
> They will know some ins and outs.
>
> CBee
Good point...

Perhaps because it is refered to as a "hardware database" ?
Using something called a "hardware database" to find persons
experienced in a certain machine can indeed be very helpful;
but not an obvious use going by its name.

"tweaking" a web page or two to make this usage clear
to the newcomer might help.

Who would be a good contact for such a change?

Mike

Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Randolph Chung]

> Who would be a good contact for such a change?

there's an email address on many of the hwdb pages
(hwdb@parisc-linux.org). That'll be a good place to start. I believe it
currently points to Thibaut :)

randolph
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Debian GNU/Linux Developer, hppa/ia64 ports
http://www.tausq.org/

Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Michael S.Zick]

Thanks,
Will do.

I posted a separate message to the M-L - just to see
how many:
 "I didn't mean I have the time to answer questions."
sort of responses this idea would raise among the 
M-L members.

Mike

On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:02 am, Randolph Chung wrote:
> > Who would be a good contact for such a change?
>
> there's an email address on many of the hwdb pages
> (hwdb@parisc-linux.org). That'll be a good place to start. I believe it
> currently points to Thibaut :)
>
> randolph

Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Thibaut VARENE]

On jeudi, jan 30, 2003, at 16:02 Europe/Paris, Randolph Chung wrote:

>> Who would be a good contact for such a change?
>
> there's an email address on many of the hwdb pages
> (hwdb@parisc-linux.org). That'll be a good place to start. I believe it
> currently points to Thibaut :)
yes.

quoting Michael S.Zick:
> "tweaking" a web page or two to make this usage clear
> to the newcomer might help.
Forget about it. You don't even know what it's all about and don't 
wanna know.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
let's eventually add a FAQ/News entry on the main website (which can be 
done by anyone
with CVS access), but i'm not gonna change anything to that hwdb before 
long.

i'm currently under heavy exam pressure and have really many other thing
to do. Even on parisc stuff. HWDB is currently ranked at level 
"abyssal" in my TODO list
priority order.

That being stated to avoid any post to hwdb@parisc-linux.org. :)

HTH,

Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
http://pateam.esiee.fr/

Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Michael S.Zick]

On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:38 am, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> On jeudi, jan 30, 2003, at 16:02 Europe/Paris, Randolph Chung wrote:
> >> Who would be a good contact for such a change?
> >
> > there's an email address on many of the hwdb pages
> > (hwdb@parisc-linux.org). That'll be a good place to start. I believe it
> > currently points to Thibaut :)
>
> yes.
>
> quoting Michael S.Zick:
> > "tweaking" a web page or two to make this usage clear
> > to the newcomer might help.
>
> Forget about it. You don't even know what it's all about and don't
> wanna know.
Done

[parisc-linux] Hardware Database & User Contacts

[Michael S.Zick]

Group.

I was just browsing the pages, trying to get an idea if I had
just volunteered for a 2-line change or a 2-million line change...

Question 1:
The user registration form says "... You will not be contacted..."

I always read that as: "We will not spam you with advertisements."
But others may have read that as: "You will not be contacted."

Possible answers :
1.a - Give up on the idea of recommending this use of the
hardware database information.

1.b - Add a field meaning: "Willing to give advice on this."
Then initialize that field for all current members to "No".

1.c - Hide the email address field from public view
(developer only view, like it says now) unless the 
"Willing to give advice on this." thing is marked.

Question 2:
Is there a way to update this registration information?

2.a - At this time, my e-mail address is wrong, I would like
to update it.

2.b - If we set all existing users to 1.b - "No"; is there a 
way for them to update it to "Yes"?

Mike

On Thursday 30 January 2003 08:45 am, Michael S.Zick wrote:
> On Thursday 30 January 2003 04:59 am, Beerse, Corné wrote:
> > Why did nobody point to the hardware database:
> > http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/
> >
> > There are some users of a D210 reported there:
> > http://hwdb.parisc-linux.org/view.php3?type=machine&name=D210
> >
> > They will know some ins and outs.
> >
> > CBee
>
> Good point...
>
> Perhaps because it is refered to as a "hardware database" ?
> Using something called a "hardware database" to find persons
> experienced in a certain machine can indeed be very helpful;
> but not an obvious use going by its name.
>
> "tweaking" a web page or two to make this usage clear
> to the newcomer might help.
>
> Who would be a good contact for such a change?
>
> Mike
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> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux

Re: [parisc-linux] Hardware Database & User Contacts

[Grant Grundler]

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:21:49AM -0600, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> Group.
> 
> I was just browsing the pages, trying to get an idea if I had
> just volunteered for a 2-line change or a 2-million line change...
> 
> Question 1:
> The user registration form says "... You will not be contacted..."
> 
> I always read that as: "We will not spam you with advertisements."
> But others may have read that as: "You will not be contacted."
> 
> Possible answers :
> 1.a - Give up on the idea of recommending this use of the
> hardware database information.
> 
> 1.b - Add a field meaning: "Willing to give advice on this."
> Then initialize that field for all current members to "No".

yes

> 1.c - Hide the email address field from public view
> (developer only view, like it says now) unless the 
> "Willing to give advice on this." thing is marked.

If you are willing to hack php...that's an option too

> Question 2:
> Is there a way to update this registration information?

not at the moment.

> 2.a - At this time, my e-mail address is wrong, I would like
> to update it.

it's a manual process and I'm not doing it.

> 2.b - If we set all existing users to 1.b - "No"; is there a 
> way for them to update it to "Yes"?

not until someone writes the code to do it.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Hardware Database & User Contacts

[Michael S.Zick]

Grant
Thanks for your time...

But the person in charge is currently swapped...

So anything will have to be classed: "Maybe someday."

Mike

On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:46 pm, Grant Grundler wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:21:49AM -0600, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> > Group.
> >
> > I was just browsing the pages, trying to get an idea if I had
> > just volunteered for a 2-line change or a 2-million line change...
> >
> > Question 1:
> > The user registration form says "... You will not be contacted..."
> >
> > I always read that as: "We will not spam you with advertisements."
> > But others may have read that as: "You will not be contacted."
> >
> > Possible answers :
> > 1.a - Give up on the idea of recommending this use of the
> > hardware database information.
> >
> > 1.b - Add a field meaning: "Willing to give advice on this."
> > Then initialize that field for all current members to "No".
>
> yes
>
> > 1.c - Hide the email address field from public view
> > (developer only view, like it says now) unless the
> > "Willing to give advice on this." thing is marked.
>
> If you are willing to hack php...that's an option too
>
> > Question 2:
> > Is there a way to update this registration information?
>
> not at the moment.
>
> > 2.a - At this time, my e-mail address is wrong, I would like
> > to update it.
>
> it's a manual process and I'm not doing it.
>
> > 2.b - If we set all existing users to 1.b - "No"; is there a
> > way for them to update it to "Yes"?
>
> not until someone writes the code to do it.
>
> grant

Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Grant Grundler]

On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:45:46AM -0600, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> "tweaking" a web page or two to make this usage clear
> to the newcomer might help.

The goal of the HWDB was to survey what HW each model machine has
so we could write proper support in the kernel.
AFAIK, The people submitting entries didn't sign up to do newbie support.

Keep posting questions to the parisc-linux mailing list and let people
who *want* to answer them do so.

If someone is looking for platform specific install notes, I think
ESIEE has such a web page already. Following links to ESIEE
from www.parisc-linux.org.

> Who would be a good contact for such a change?

In general, Thibaut or myself.
Anyone with CVS *write* permission can change the parisc-linux
web page but most don't touch it.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] quad tulip now not functional in 2.4.20

[Peter Lavender]

> > Who would be a good contact for such a change?
> 
> In general, Thibaut or myself.
> Anyone with CVS *write* permission can change the parisc-linux
> web page but most don't touch it.

I'll admit to actually putting my hand up quite some time back to take
a look at the hwdb stuff.. but time pressures of part time study,
family etc sort meant I didn't get that far with it.

However, if I can find archive sent to me, I'll try to get it at least
installed here before Uni starts again for me and _try_ to make some
contribution....  but no promises.

Any suggestions etc should be noted somewhere, and the archive I guess
is as good as any, and I'll try getting something sorted out.

But again, don't hold your breath... I did volunteer for this a long
time ago, but it didn't come to anything then either... sorry.. :(

Pete
:wq