From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lars Marowsky-Bree Subject: Re: reiserfs on redhat advanced server? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:21:48 +0100 Message-ID: <20030131122147.GE15359@marowsky-bree.de> References: <20030130173522.3aa4d0e1.pegasus@nerv.eu.org> <3E397A19.60409@namesys.com> <20030130234142.E8448@vestdata.no> <3E3A6071.6060102@namesys.com> <20030131115333.GC15359@marowsky-bree.de> <3E3A67AE.4050601@namesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E3A67AE.4050601@namesys.com> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Hans Reiser Cc: Ragnar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kj=F8rstad?= , Jure Pecar , reiserfs-list@namesys.com On 2003-01-31T15:10:22, Hans Reiser said: > The distros are really doing their best to undermine the open source=20 > community testing process that works so well....=20 >=20 > for them to not certify/support a stable Marcelo kernel is.... well it=20 > makes me angry quite honestly.... Tell that to the ISVs. And the plain kernel, when it comes out, is usually simply not really useable as a distro kernel until, oh, dot twenty something or so, for a variety of reasons. >From "buzzwords" like 'enterprise features missing' or missing support for hardware to different schedulers, accomodations for IHVs/ISVs which mainline doesn't want (yet) etc. The way it works seems to be that distros test driv= e a lot of code before it gets merged into mainline, at the expense of mainline being slightly behind quite often. And at the time when distributions hit their respective deadlines, even a bunch of just plain fixes will have already piled up for the last stable vanilla kernel, so they get thrown in too, mostly from "pre" kernels. I'm not saying this is good or bad, but it is just they way it is. I can't really see a distribution shipping a plain, unpatched kernel. Trust me. Eve= ry distributor would love too, because it would lower cost for them. You know = how much highly qualified _work_ is needed to maintain a distribution kernel? Nobody does that out of their own free will. Sincerely, Lars Marowsky-Br=E9e --=20 Principal Squirrel=20 SuSE Labs - Research & Development, SuSE Linux AG =20 "If anything can go wrong, it will." "Chance favors the prepared (mind)." -- Capt. Edward A. Murphy -- Louis Pasteur