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From: Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>
To: Anders Widman <andewid@tnonline.net>
Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:17:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030212101714.A10274@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3452483515.20030212001747@tnonline.net>

Hello!

On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 12:17:47AM +0100, Anders Widman wrote:
> >> I've used ReiserFS in the past, but have also used ext3 on my
> >> user's important
> >> data (/home) after a good chunk of one drive was converted to
> >> sparse/null files due to a screwup stemming from no 'badblocks' support
> >> in reiserfs.  Since then, i've used ext3 as well as Reiser but recently
> > I can't comment on your experience, but personally if I have a drive with
> > any number of badblocks (which are showing up to the fs layer, not invisibly
> > re-mapped by the drive) then I take the drive back and get a replacement, or
> > bin the drive.
> However,  the FS SHOULD support handling of bad blocks/clusters at the

Well, the FS itself support this. Kind of ;)
Just mark bad blocks are "used".
Of course this does not work when bad block is in journal (solved with
relocate/custom journal) or in bitmap block.
Said that, I know that ext3 does not do very well if there is a bad block
in the journal area.
Another problem is write errors (especially into journal areas). I do not
know about ext3, but reiserfs just fails in such a case, though I know
that SuSE people are working on resolving this problem.

> FS  layer,  even  while running in a production system. Bad blocks can
> pop  up  at any give time for no particular reason, and it is at these
> times  you  (we) need a strong and reliable filesystem that can handle
> and logically remap broken blocks/sectors.

Hm. None of existing filesystems for Linux can do this to my knowledge.

Bye,
    Oleg

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-02-12  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-11 18:59 Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-11 20:27 ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-11 21:30   ` Mike Hodson
2003-02-11 21:47     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-11 21:58     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12  6:35       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-11 23:11     ` Adam Goryachev
2003-02-11 23:17       ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12  0:12         ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 10:23           ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 10:47             ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 11:12               ` Adam Goryachev
2003-02-12 13:42                 ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 14:15                   ` Russell Coker
2003-02-12 15:26                     ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 16:22                       ` bscott
2003-02-12 16:28                       ` Russell Coker
2003-02-12 16:40                         ` Anders Widman
2003-02-13  3:42                       ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-13 10:13                         ` Anders Widman
2003-02-13 14:44                           ` Rudy Zijlstra
2003-02-13  3:31                     ` Zygo Blaxell
     [not found]                       ` <20030213113003.7ee7af6e.philippe.gramoulle@mmania.com>
2003-02-13 18:17                         ` rijndael loopback encryption was [Re: Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3] Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-12 16:39                 ` Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3 Sam Vilain
2003-02-12  5:12         ` Ross Vandegrift
2003-02-12  7:17         ` Oleg Drokin [this message]
2003-02-12 10:17         ` Alexander Lyamin
2003-02-12 10:19           ` Alexander Lyamin
2003-02-12 16:25         ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-12 16:56           ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 17:13             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-12  1:02       ` Mike Hodson
2003-02-12  7:25         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-12  9:45         ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 16:09         ` Sam Vilain
2003-02-12 10:11 ` trolling Alexander Lyamin
2003-02-12 12:32   ` trolling Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 14:48   ` trolling Chris Mason
2003-02-13 19:54   ` trolling Zygo Blaxell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-11 19:43 Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3 berthiaume_wayne
2003-02-12 10:48 ` Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 10:59   ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 11:24     ` Frank Baumgart
2003-02-12 11:35       ` Stefan Traby
2003-02-12 11:54     ` Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 12:42       ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 13:25         ` Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 16:22 ` Sam Vilain
2003-02-12 16:53   ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 17:19     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 17:40       ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 18:15         ` Dirk Mueller
2003-02-12 18:20           ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 18:20         ` Chris Dukes
2003-02-13 20:08   ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-12 18:27 Anders Widman
2003-02-12 20:05 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-13 22:49 ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-14  0:32   ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-14  8:18     ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-14 10:13       ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-14 10:17         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-14 10:50           ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-14 10:59             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-14 13:34             ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-14 16:04               ` Rudy Zijlstra
2003-02-14 19:06               ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-14 19:19                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-15 12:51                   ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-15 13:00                     ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-18 19:50                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-18 20:05                         ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-18 22:18                           ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-15 13:04                     ` Anders Widman
2003-02-15 13:23                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-17 19:43                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-15 22:37                   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-18 18:21                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-18 19:22                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-18 19:28                         ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-18 21:17                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-18 22:02                       ` Matthias Andree
2003-02-19  6:26                         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-18 22:23                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 20:57 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-14  0:16 Sam Vilain
2003-02-23 23:10 ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-14  0:17 Sam Vilain
2003-02-14  0:18 Sam Vilain
2003-02-23 23:31 ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-24  1:14   ` Anders Widman
2003-02-14 14:20 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-14 20:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-14 14:30 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-17 10:04 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-20  1:27 ` Juan Quintela
2003-02-20  9:03   ` Anders Widman
2003-02-20  9:55 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-20 10:20 ` Anders Widman

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