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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: hps@intermeta.de
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:48:17 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200302162148.h1GLmHCF003341@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2ov68$as3$2@tangens.hometree.net> from "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" at Feb 16, 2003 09:18:00 PM

> >In the US, at least, all the deals I've been able to find cap the 
> >bandwidth at ~100Kbit/sec average rate.  
> 
> Then it's not a T1. It's a crippled thing able to carry a meagre 35
> gigs per month with throttled bandwith and just 1.5 MBits peak rate.
> No wonder your VoIP sounds like from a B-movie. :-)

I think what Larry meant was that connectivity via DSL is only
available to him at an average of 100Kbit, and he therefore has to pay
for a leased line.

In the U.K., you can get 2 Mbit/256 Kbit ADSL with no bandwidth
limitations to you, for about 300 pounds/month.  However, that that is
not the same as a leased line the connection is still contended.  A
leased line is guaranteed bandwidth, (usually with a service level
agreement which will allow you to claim a refund if it fails).

The lowest price I was quoted for a 512 Kbit leased line was about
5000 pounds/year, and it varies a lot by location, too.

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-16 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-06  2:10 openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-06  2:34 ` openbkweb-0.0 Dave Jones
2003-02-06  3:09 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06  4:23   ` openbkweb-0.0 Ben Collins
2003-02-06  4:37     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-06  6:02       ` openbkweb-0.0 Willy Tarreau
2003-02-06  6:14         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-06 14:23         ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-13  2:47 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-13 11:55   ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-13 16:13     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:23       ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 16:46         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 16:56       ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-13 21:11       ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-13 21:18         ` openbkweb-0.0 Robert Love
2003-02-14 12:59           ` openbkweb-0.0 Xavier Bestel
2003-02-13 22:05         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-13 22:56           ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14  6:02             ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14  6:30               ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-14 14:41                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 13:54                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Matthew D. Pitts
2003-02-14 15:30                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 15:45                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-14 16:56                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-14 16:47                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 16:50                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-14 17:09                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Tomas Szepe
2003-02-14 17:24                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 11:42                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 14:42                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Walrond
     [not found]                                   ` <1045342539.5130.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                                     ` <3E4F7E20.30905@walrond.org>
2003-02-16 20:18                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 20:23                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16 21:18                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:48                                             ` John Bradford [this message]
2003-02-17 10:13                                               ` ADSL vs Leased line (was: Re: openbkweb-0.0) Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 11:00                                                 ` John Bradford
2003-02-17 11:46                                                   ` Andrew Walrond
2003-02-17 12:00                                                     ` John Bradford
2003-02-15  0:11                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  0:52                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  0:56                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  1:50                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15  1:01                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  2:00                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  2:41                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  3:11                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  3:30                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  5:00                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  5:32                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  7:24                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  6:20                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  7:27                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Aggelos Economopoulos
2003-02-15  2:13                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15  8:02                         ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:17                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-14 20:31             ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 22:02               ` openbkweb-0.0 Thomas Molina
2003-02-15  0:39                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15 16:18                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-15 21:31                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19  9:57                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-19 10:43                         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19 10:51                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-16 21:03                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-19  9:54                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-02-14 23:45               ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-14 23:57                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15  0:45                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  1:05                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15  1:13                       ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:18                         ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:29                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-15  1:40                           ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15  1:35                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-15  7:36                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-15  9:46                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-15 11:47                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 11:50                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:07                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-15 16:44                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 12:10                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-02-15 16:58                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-16 20:26                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-02-16 21:11                             ` openbkweb-0.0 John Jasen
2003-02-18 17:41                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-15 17:44                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 18:12                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 20:44                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-15 20:54                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16  4:08                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16  5:18                             ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-16  5:35                               ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-16 22:34                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-17  4:31                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Jamie Lokier
2003-02-17 14:50                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 Rik van Riel
2003-02-18 22:34                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 David Lang
2003-02-19  8:31                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Janík
2003-02-19 15:11                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Paul Fulghum
2003-02-19 15:16                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-19 15:28                                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Pavel Machek
2003-02-19 15:47                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Nicolas Pitre
2003-02-15 21:56                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 21:52                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-15 22:04                           ` openbkweb-0.0 Davide Libenzi
2003-02-15 22:11                           ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:24                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Andrew Morton
2003-02-15 22:44                               ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  0:15                                 ` openbkweb-0.0 Matt Reppert
2003-02-16  0:46                                   ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  0:55                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  3:23                                     ` openbkweb-0.0 Larry McVoy
2003-02-16  5:22                                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Alan Cox
2003-02-16 11:08                                         ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16 11:22                                           ` openbkweb-0.0 David Woodhouse
2003-02-16 11:50                                             ` openbkweb-0.0 John Bradford
2003-02-16  9:58                             ` openbkweb-0.0 Filip Van Raemdonck
2003-02-16 14:42                       ` openbkweb-0.0 Gaël Le Mignot
2003-02-16 16:27                         ` openbkweb-0.0 Jörn Engel
2003-02-16 22:56                       ` bk2cvs [was Re: openbkweb-0.0] Pavel Machek
2003-02-18  0:19                         ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-18 11:22                           ` Pavel Machek
2003-02-18 17:19                             ` Vlad@geekizoid.com
2003-02-14 20:28           ` openbkweb-0.0 Adrian Bunk
2003-02-14 20:35             ` openbkweb-0.0 nick
2003-02-15  0:17               ` openbkweb-0.0 Vlad@geekizoid.com

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