From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
Cc: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
scott thomason <scott-kernel@thomasons.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bio too big device
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:06:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030312160611.GL834@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030312160218.GB4868@win.tue.nl>
On Wed, Mar 12 2003, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:51:05PM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 12 2003, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:14:14AM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > >
> > > > So I still think it's much better stick with the safe choice. Why do you
> > > > think it's only one drive that has this bug? It basically boils down to
> > > > whether That Other OS uses 256 sector commands or not. If it doesn't, I
> > > > wouldn't trust the drives one bit.
> > >
> > > I am not quite sure I understand your reasoning.
> > > We have seen *zero* drives that do not understand 256 sector commands.
> > > Maybe such drives exist, but so far there is zero evidence.
> >
> > Have you read the thread? You are obviously mistaken.
>
> Usually I am not, but I am happy to be corrected.
> Please point out the facts.
>
> What I have seen is Paul Gortmaker, who reported on an old disk
> that showed errors with 256 sector transfers. In an early post
> he thought that that just was because the drive did not understand
> 256-sector transfers, in a later post he reported that in fact
> 256-sector transfers worked but that it was possible to
> provoke a problem by having heavy load for an hour with
> 256-sector transfers.
>
> I have an old drive that works fine but after three crashes
> at 4 in the morning I decided that the load of updating
> the locate database was more than it could handle.
> Heavy load is something that kills many a machine.
Either the drive has the bug or not. I seriously doubt that 256 vs 248
sectors would put any extra strain on the drive.
If there's no real precedent wrt 256 sector bug in _any_ drive, then I'm
fine with that change. Remember that we _did_ have it that way for a
while, it was only changed back because of apparent problems. If those
problems turn out to be non-existant, then the error was changing it
away from 256 in the first place.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-12 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-12 2:55 bio too big device scott thomason
2003-03-12 3:17 ` scott thomason
2003-03-12 8:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 3:37 ` Neil Brown
2003-03-12 3:49 ` scott thomason
2003-03-12 8:30 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 5:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12 8:47 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-12 8:59 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12 8:51 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 9:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12 9:09 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 10:07 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-03-12 10:14 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 15:44 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-12 15:51 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 16:02 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-12 16:06 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2003-03-12 16:14 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-12 19:05 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-03-12 22:20 ` John Bradford
2003-03-12 21:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-03-14 11:19 ` Paul Gortmaker
2003-03-12 21:45 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 14:54 ` scott thomason
2003-03-12 14:58 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 17:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 16:14 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 15:11 ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-12 17:12 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-12 16:06 ` Jens Axboe
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-12 18:19 Manfred Spraul
2003-03-12 21:40 ` Alan Cox
[not found] <20030416172122.M65357@gw>
[not found] ` <20030416181944.M32238@gw>
2003-04-16 18:32 ` Anders Larsson
2003-04-17 13:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-16 18:43 Mudama, Eric
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