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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: helgehaf@aitel.hist.no, erik@hensema.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Delaying writes to disk when there's no need
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:45:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030331144500.17bf3a2e.akpm@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E88BAF9.8040100@cyberone.com.au>

Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> wrote:
>
> it seems to me that
> doing writeout whenever the disk would otherwise be idle
> (and we have dirty memory to write out) would be a good
> solution.

This is what the recently-removed BDI_read_active flag in backing_dev_info
was supposed to be for.  I let it go because I don't think it's terribly
important and it's time to stop fiddling with the vfs writeout code and it
wasn't right anyway.

Note that 2.5 starts pdflush writeout at 10% of memory dirty.  Or even lower
if there is a lot of mapped memory around.  Whereas 2.4 will start background
writeout at 30% or 40% dirty.  That's a fairly significant tuning change.

The algorithm for utilisation of an idle disk should be, in
balance_dirty_pages():

	if (ps.nr_dirty + ps.nr_writeback < background_thresh) {
		if (time_after(jiffies, bdi->last_read + HZ/100)) {
			if (bdi->write_requests_in_flight < 2) {
				struct writeback_control wbc = {
					.bdi		= bdi,
					.sync_mode	= WB_SYNC_NONE,
					.nr_to_write	= write_chunk,
				};

				writeback_inodes(&wbc);
			}
		}
		return;
	}


Or something like that.  It's pretty close.

It could have pretty bad failure modes.  Short-lived files in /tmp now
perform writeout, which needs to be waited on when those files are removed.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-03-31 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-26 20:31 Delaying writes to disk when there's no need Erik Hensema
2003-03-27  9:06 ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-27 11:22   ` Erik Hensema
2003-03-28 23:12 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-31 12:00   ` Erik Hensema
2003-03-31 13:42     ` Helge Hafting
2003-03-31 14:45       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-03-31 22:02       ` Nick Piggin
2003-03-31 22:22         ` Chris Friesen
2003-03-31 22:35           ` Nick Piggin
2003-03-31 22:51             ` John Bradford
2003-03-31 22:58               ` Nick Piggin
2003-03-31 22:45         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2003-03-31 23:03           ` Nick Piggin
2003-03-31 23:32           ` Ingo Oeser
2003-04-01  0:02             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-01  0:43           ` Daniel Pittman
2003-04-01  1:09             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-01  1:34               ` Daniel Pittman
2003-04-01  1:45                 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]               ` <3E88EB3D.6020409@cyberone.com.au>
2003-04-01  1:39                 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <20030326204012$188c@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030327091007$22a5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030327113014$37b4@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-28 10:18     ` Tim Connors
2003-03-30 17:38       ` Helge Hafting

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