From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264231AbTDWWCr (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:02:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264259AbTDWWCr (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:02:47 -0400 Received: from almesberger.net ([63.105.73.239]:13318 "EHLO host.almesberger.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264231AbTDWWCq (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:02:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:14:27 -0300 From: Werner Almesberger To: "Martin J. Bligh" Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer , Marc Giger , linux-kernel , pat@suwalski.net Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered. Message-ID: <20030423191427.D3557@almesberger.net> References: <21660000.1051114998@[10.10.2.4]> <20030423164558.GA12202@citd.de> <1508310000.1051116963@flay> <20030423183413.C1425@almesberger.net> <1560860000.1051133781@flay> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1560860000.1051133781@flay>; from mbligh@aracnet.com on Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 02:36:21PM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Martin J. Bligh wrote: > I'm more concerned with new installs, and the poor user having no idea > why his sound card "doesn't work". Been there myself. Pain in the ass. Yes, but that's a user space problem too. Nothing prevents your distribution to crank up the volume to 100% also on a first-time installation. The kernel should pick a value that's safe in all cases. And this is zero. Don't forget that there can be several seconds between the driver's initialization and the moment when the user-space utility gets to change the settings. - Werner -- _________________________________________________________________________ / Werner Almesberger, Buenos Aires, Argentina wa@almesberger.net / /_http://www.almesberger.net/____________________________________________/