From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263591AbTDWWHm (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:07:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264230AbTDWWHm (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:07:42 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.iol.cz ([194.228.2.86]:5060 "EHLO smtp-out1.iol.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263591AbTDWWHl (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 18:07:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:17:49 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Pat Suwalski Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer , "Martin J. Bligh" , Marc Giger , linux-kernel Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered. Message-ID: <20030423221749.GA9187@elf.ucw.cz> References: <21660000.1051114998@[10.10.2.4]> <20030423164558.GA12202@citd.de> <1508310000.1051116963@flay> <20030423172120.GA12497@citd.de> <3EA6947D.9080106@suwalski.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA6947D.9080106@suwalski.net> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > >I can only guess why. My buest guess is that not all > >sound-configurations are the same, on some systems the "defaults" could > >much to loud. (e.g. waking the neigbours when you restart you computer > >at night) > > This is certainly the case. When I was packaging OSS for Xandros, our > initial default was 50 percent. We eventualyl made it about 30, because > even that was too loud on a laptop we were testing. There was little > coherance between the various soundcards. > > Waking the neighbors is the smallest problem. Blowing a speaker or > makign the user deaf if quite another. Hardware that lets software kill it deserves so, and I believe you can't make user deaf *that* easily. I expect kernel to just work, and not need 1001 tools to set it up. cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp should produce some noise... Pavel -- When do you have a heart between your knees? [Johanka's followup: and *two* hearts?]