From: Bill Huey (Hui) <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Gerrit Huizenga <gh@us.ibm.com>, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
Rick Lindsley <ricklind@us.ibm.com>,
solt@dns.toxicfilms.tv, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
frankeh@us.ibm.com, "Bill Huey (Hui)" <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Subject: Re: must-fix list for 2.6.0
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 04:57:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030501115720.GA3645@gnuppy.monkey.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EB0B346.1080805@us.ibm.com>
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 10:40:22PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> Gerrit Huizenga wrote:
> > Which affects JVM in most cases. NPTL based JVMs will possibly
> > obviate that problem. My guess is that in the JVM case, they have
> > a bad locking model (er, a simpler 2-tier locking model instead of
> > a more correct and complex 3-tier locking model) for their threading
> > operations. As a result, they use either sched_yield() or used
> > to use pause() to relinquish the processor so the world could change
> > and they could acquire the locks they wanted.
>
> The JVM's extensive use of sched_yield(), plus the HT scheduler causes
> some pretty undesirable behaviour in SPECjbb(tm) (see disclaimer). It
> starves some pieces of the benchmark so badly, that the benchmark
> results are invalid. We also start to get tons of idle time as the load
> goes up.
Have the Blackdown folks fix that. The Solaris Threads implementation
suppresses the actual call to a yield in the HotSpot VM if it gets too
many of them bunched together in short period of time. It's really a problem
not with the JVM itself, but the Linux implementaion of their threading
glue logic... Make'm fix it. :)
I've heard that a number of folks in Blackdown want to try out the new
threading model, so this might be a good opportunity to do that... add
special thread suspension support, etc...
:)
bill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-01 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-29 22:57 must-fix list for 2.6.0 Andrew Morton
2003-04-29 23:22 ` John Bradford
2003-04-29 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 3:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-30 4:45 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 4:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-01 4:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-30 8:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-04-30 10:16 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-04-30 19:11 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 23:11 ` Rick Lindsley
2003-04-30 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-30 23:47 ` viro
2003-04-30 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 5:49 ` Shawn
2003-05-01 10:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 9:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-01 15:44 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 0:09 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 0:51 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2003-05-01 5:40 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-01 11:57 ` Bill Huey [this message]
2003-04-30 23:53 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 8:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-01 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 8:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-04-30 23:41 ` Robert Love
2003-05-01 16:50 ` Hubertus Franke
2003-05-01 3:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-01 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-05-01 14:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-01 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01 18:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-02 1:57 ` Andreas Boman
[not found] <20030429155731.07811707.akpm@digeo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-04-30 1:36 ` Andi Kleen
2003-04-30 18:09 ` Pavel Machek
2003-04-30 18:15 ` Andi Kleen
2003-04-30 19:11 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <20030429231009$1e6b@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-30 4:55 ` Florian Weimer
2003-04-30 10:18 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-05-01 11:24 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-01 11:27 ` Florian Weimer
2003-05-01 12:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-01 12:05 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-02 16:28 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-02 21:14 ` David S. Miller
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