From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Dax Kelson <dax@gurulabs.com>,
"Downing, Thomas" <Thomas.Downing@ipc.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!]
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:17:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030509231757.GA25657@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030509110414.GB2895@zaurus.ucw.cz>
On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 01:04:14PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > Those people ought to consider the benefits that BK has provided, the
> > fact that any free replacement is years away, and the fact that we could
> > pull the plug tomorrow and shut down the free use of BK. Balance your
>
> So you are essentially blackmailing us,
> and expect us to like it? (What's above
> statement, if not blackmail?) Either
> pull the plug today, or stop flaming this
> list. Better pull the plug.
Pavel, someone gave me some really good insight when he said "When's the
last time you saw something from Pavel that wasn't a troll?" I think
you do post a some useful stuff but he does have a point, and I'll pass
on rising to the bait, this troll is a little too blatant.
If you really want to know how I feel on the topic, Dave stated it nicely:
> From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
>
> See, it's not about what you're allowed to do, it's about being nice to
> people especially the ones that help you.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-09 23:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-30 13:11 Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Downing, Thomas
2003-04-30 13:59 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-30 14:49 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-04-30 16:01 ` Giuliano Pochini
2003-04-30 16:53 ` Dax Kelson
2003-04-30 17:21 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-30 17:45 ` Jim Penny
2003-04-30 19:09 ` Balram Adlakha
2003-04-30 19:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-05-01 2:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-05-01 3:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2003-05-09 11:04 ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-09 23:17 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-04-30 20:00 ` Dax Kelson
2003-05-01 11:44 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-02 19:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-02 23:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-03 19:25 ` Larry McVoy
2003-05-06 11:25 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-05-06 12:13 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-09 10:59 ` Pavel Machek
2003-05-01 12:09 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-05-01 18:01 ` Gerhard Mack
2003-05-01 12:12 ` Beating the Monopoly [was: Why DRM exists] Scott Robert Ladd
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-01 23:40 Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-01 19:06 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-01 3:16 Tom Lord
2003-04-30 18:39 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-30 16:21 Chuck Ebbert
2003-04-30 17:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-30 15:53 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-30 14:52 Downing, Thomas
2003-04-30 15:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-30 15:55 ` Jeff Randall
2003-05-01 12:43 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-04-30 18:19 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-30 19:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-30 19:41 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-30 19:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-30 19:55 ` viro
2003-04-30 20:09 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-30 18:58 ` Edgar Toernig
2003-04-30 22:43 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-05-01 1:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-05-01 12:27 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-05-01 13:11 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-05-01 17:40 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-04-27 17:59 James Bottomley
2003-04-29 14:01 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-29 16:39 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-04-29 17:38 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-30 9:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-29 23:40 ` Robert White
2003-04-30 1:34 ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-30 10:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-30 20:37 ` Robert White
2003-04-30 20:59 ` David Schwartz
2003-05-01 9:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-05-01 19:49 ` David Schwartz
2003-05-01 20:27 ` Robert White
2003-05-01 23:08 ` David Schwartz
2003-05-02 0:54 ` Robert White
2003-05-02 3:10 ` David Schwartz
2003-05-02 3:34 ` David Schwartz
2003-05-02 13:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-04-30 20:48 ` David Schwartz
2003-04-24 3:59 Flame Linus to a crisp! Linus Torvalds
2003-04-24 8:37 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-04-24 8:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-24 15:37 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-24 18:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-24 22:29 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-27 14:21 ` Matthias Andree
2003-04-27 16:59 ` Why DRM exists [was Re: Flame Linus to a crisp!] Larry McVoy
2003-04-27 17:04 ` Ben Collins
2003-04-27 17:34 ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-27 18:41 ` Henrik Persson
2003-04-27 17:35 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-04-27 17:49 ` Mirar
2003-04-27 23:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-27 17:59 ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-27 21:28 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-28 1:48 ` rmoser
2003-04-28 9:05 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-04-27 18:07 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-27 18:35 ` Chris Adams
2003-04-27 18:50 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-27 19:11 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-04-27 20:13 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2003-04-27 20:34 ` walt
2003-04-27 21:26 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 22:07 ` Ross Vandegrift
2003-04-27 22:32 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-27 22:05 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 23:28 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-28 0:06 ` Ross Vandegrift
2003-04-28 11:03 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-29 18:06 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-28 9:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-04-28 14:55 ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-28 20:04 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2003-04-28 20:18 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-28 20:22 ` Chris Adams
2003-04-28 21:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-28 21:40 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-28 22:13 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-28 22:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-29 0:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-29 4:07 ` Dax Kelson
2003-04-29 5:08 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-29 16:40 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-04-29 21:45 ` Helge Hafting
2003-04-30 9:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-30 15:06 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-04-29 5:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-04-29 16:41 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-04-29 14:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 22:34 ` Matthias Andree
2003-04-27 22:51 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2003-04-27 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-28 0:00 ` rmoser
[not found] ` <20030428001001.GP23068@work.bitmover.com>
2003-04-28 0:19 ` rmoser
2003-04-28 0:37 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-28 0:40 ` rmoser
2003-04-28 11:38 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-04-29 14:21 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-29 14:27 ` Henrik Persson
2003-04-29 19:56 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-29 20:35 ` Henrik Persson
2003-04-30 8:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-27 18:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-27 18:56 ` Werner Almesberger
2003-04-27 19:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-04-27 21:30 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-27 21:32 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 22:36 ` Larry McVoy
2003-04-27 21:56 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 23:08 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2003-04-27 22:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-27 23:35 ` Matthias Andree
2003-04-27 22:07 ` Matthias Andree
2003-04-28 0:36 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2003-04-28 9:57 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-05-06 15:58 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-05-07 14:44 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-05-07 14:28 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-07 21:40 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-05-07 22:16 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-08 0:33 ` Kurt Wall
2003-04-28 11:26 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-05-06 15:59 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-04-28 22:50 ` Timothy Miller
2003-04-29 14:46 ` Jeffrey Souza
2003-04-29 15:16 ` venom
2003-04-30 9:35 ` Jamie Lokier
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