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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:44:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030519224414.GG8978@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <babheo$s9r$1@cesium.transmeta.com>

Followup to:  <20030519105152.GD8978@holomorphy.com>
By author:    William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>> IIRC you're supposed to use some sort of sanitized copy, not the things
>> directly. IMHO the current state of affairs sucks as there is no
>> standard set of ABI headers, but grabbing them right out of the kernel
>> is definitely not the way to go.

On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 02:14:00PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> This "cure" sucks worse than the disease.  Now you're putting it onto
> everyone who maintains userspace to do the same repetitive task of
> "sanitizing" this.  Especially for things this trivial, this is a
> ridiculous concept.
> For 2.7, getting real exportable ABI headers is so bloody necessary
> it's not even funny.  However, for 2.5, breaking things randomly is
> not the way to go.

I would rather have real exportable ABI headers, yes. We don't have
them and AFAIK sanitized copies are the current policy.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-19 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-18 20:21 Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-18 20:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 21:12   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19  5:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:43       ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 10:51         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:14           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:21             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:33             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 11:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:52               ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:14           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:44             ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-05-19 22:46               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:56                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 23:04                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  6:06                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:56           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 13:06             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 16:56               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 17:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 21:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:18                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 22:31                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:20                         ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 23:28                           ` Andries Brouwer
2003-05-20 10:35                             ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2003-05-19 23:30                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:05                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 23:17                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:55                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  0:24                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20  0:40                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  1:11                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 22:10                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  0:30                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  0:54                             ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-20  1:09                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  1:42                                 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20  4:12                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  4:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20  6:37                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  7:24                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 19:04                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  7:44                               ` Riley Williams
2003-05-20 14:01                                 ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-20 17:06                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21  4:39                                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-21  5:38                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21  5:58                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 18:05               ` David Ford
2003-05-19 17:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-20  2:21                   ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:24                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 17:59           ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:06             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 18:23               ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:34                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 19:43                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 21:35               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 21:37                 ` Arjan van de Ven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-19 19:54 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-19 20:36 ` Martin Schlemmer

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