Re: Linux 2.5.70

[Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>]

On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 02:09:43PM -0400, Ricky Beam wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >On Tue, 27 May 2003, Ricky Beam wrote:
> >>
> >> Count up the number of drivers that haven't been updated to the current
> >> PCI, hotplug, and modules interfaces.
> >
> >Tough. If people don't use them, they don't get supported. It's that easy.
> ...
> 
> Allow me to clarify... I don't mind drivers not working.  I *do* mind
> drivers emitting hundreds of warnings and errors because dozens of things
> were changed and no one cared to update everything they broke.  In some
> cases, fixing things may be simple (eg. someone removed or renamed a field
> in a struct somewhere) and in others years of work my be required (eg.
> the new module interface.)
> 
> In my opinion (as it was in the long long ago), everything in a "stable"
> release should at least compile cleanly -- "working" comes later after
> users have been conned into using it.

No.  Doing this hides bugs.

We use the compiler to make bugs and needing-work areas blindingly
obviously.  Your suggesting we make them less so.

	Jeff