From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
Matthias Mueller <matthias.mueller@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>,
axboe@suse.de, m.c.p@wolk-project.de, manish@storadinc.com,
marcelo@conectiva.com.br, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.20: Proccess stuck in __lock_page ...
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:09:37 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305300009.37207.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030529135508.GC21673@alpha.home.local>
On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:55, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Hello !
>
> I've done a few tests with -rc6 on my dev machine (dual xp 1.5G, 512 MB,
> scsi). It's the *FIRST* time I have ever seen my mouse cursor hang (just a
> little bit however, and totally acceptable) ! Usually, my kernel include
> -aa VM and lowlat patches, and I've never encountered this behaviour on
> this machine with such a configuration. However, with stock kernel, I admit
> that during the 2 minutes it takes to write the 2G file, I see the mouse
> stick two or three times during about 1 second, which is quite acceptable
> IMHO. Opening an xterm may take 10s to get to the prompt (more annoying).
> Same to launch 'ps'.
>
> I use a fairly simple window manager (ctwm), which doesn't access the disk
> once it's launched. It never gets stuck during all the operation if I
> disable the swap. If I enable the swap, it sometimes takes one or two
> seconds to draw a menu. The swap is used up to about 4 MB.
>
> I then tried -rc6 with ll_rw_blk from -rc5, and it's worse, even with swap
> disabled. The hangs happen more often, but are about the same durations. So
> I confirm that -rc6 is better here than -rc5.
>
> I retried with rc4aa1, and everything went very smooth again ; it takes at
> most 1 second to get an xterm with the prompt ready, and ps responds
> immediately. So I think that there are two things here:
> - those who experience very long hangs may use a heavy window manager
> which does continuous disk accesses (I mean it accesses the disk for
> any simple operation).
> - a hungry WM may also be swapped during such operations, rendering it
> totally unusable, particularly if the swap is on the same physical disk
> as the file being written to.
>
> So, could the people who report long hangs retry with swap disabled ?
> Can we limit the amount of memory consummed by the cache during such a
> write ?
I still get hangs with rc6 with massive writeouts to swap. The problem was
that I was getting hangs without writeouts to swap with 2.4.19pre1
->2.4.21pre5. I didn't expect the patch backout to suddenly make writing to
swap occur for free (although that would be nice).
Con
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Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-27 3:41 2.4.20: Proccess stuck in __lock_page manish
2003-05-27 4:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 4:25 ` manish
2003-05-27 4:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 15:29 ` manish
2003-05-27 16:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 4:31 ` manish
2003-05-27 14:14 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-27 14:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 17:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 17:36 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 17:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 17:52 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 17:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 18:08 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 18:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 18:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 18:39 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 19:00 ` manish
2003-05-27 19:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 19:09 ` manish
2003-05-27 19:12 ` manish
2003-05-27 19:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 19:34 ` manish
2003-05-27 20:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:25 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 20:42 ` manish
2003-05-27 20:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:50 ` manish
2003-05-27 21:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 20:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:18 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27 22:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 22:40 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-27 22:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:08 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-27 18:35 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 20:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:24 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 20:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 20:53 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 21:00 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 21:11 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 21:19 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 20:55 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 21:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 21:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-27 21:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-27 18:09 ` manish
2003-05-27 17:53 ` manish
2003-05-27 18:01 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 18:16 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-27 18:25 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 18:12 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-27 17:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-27 17:38 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-27 17:50 ` manish
2003-05-27 18:04 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-27 23:06 ` Georg Nikodym
2003-05-27 23:26 ` Christopher S. Aker
2003-05-28 5:33 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 6:04 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 7:13 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 7:13 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 7:32 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 7:35 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 7:51 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 8:30 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 8:43 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 8:40 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 10:13 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 10:18 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 10:25 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:48 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 10:50 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 11:17 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 11:27 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-28 11:31 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 12:53 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 12:58 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 13:07 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 13:08 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 13:16 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 13:21 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 13:30 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 13:33 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 13:27 ` Stefan Foerster
2003-05-28 13:37 ` Stefan Foerster
2003-05-28 14:28 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-28 14:33 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 14:58 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-28 15:39 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 23:38 ` Chris Mason
2003-05-28 13:25 ` Stefan Foerster
2003-05-28 18:19 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-28 18:32 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-05-28 18:47 ` Elladan
2003-05-28 23:03 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 13:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 15:04 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 16:23 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 11:41 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 12:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-28 11:03 ` Nick Piggin
2003-05-28 10:29 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-28 10:29 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 12:10 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 12:14 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 12:21 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 12:23 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-28 12:28 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-05-28 12:38 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-29 13:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 14:10 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-29 16:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-28 14:00 ` Con Kolivas
2003-05-29 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 13:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-29 14:09 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2003-05-29 14:38 ` Matthias Mueller
2003-05-29 16:10 ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-29 14:45 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-29 16:06 ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-29 16:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 17:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-29 16:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-29 1:32 ` manish
2003-05-28 10:24 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 7:16 ` Marc Wilson
2003-05-28 19:53 ` David Ford
2003-05-28 9:36 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2003-05-28 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 9:53 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-05-28 10:01 ` Jens Axboe
2003-05-28 10:58 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-29 8:34 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
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2003-05-28 18:55 ` Thomas Tonino
2003-06-02 10:43 ` Jens Axboe
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