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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_ISO for interactivity
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:13:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307141013.12202.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307132203.55414.phillips@arcor.de>

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 06:03, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Saturday 12 July 2003 17:49, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 08:53:38PM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > Wli coined the term "isochronous" (greek for same time) for a real time
> > > task that was limited in it's timeslice but still guaranteed to run.
> > > I've decided to abuse this term and use it to name this new policy in
> > > this patch. This is neither real time, nor guaranteed.
> >
> > I didn't coin it; I know of it from elsewhere.
>
> Right, for example, USB has an isochronous transfer facility intended to
> support media applications, e.g., cameras, that require realtime
> bandwidth/latency guarantees.  The thing is, such guarantees have to be
> end-to-end in the media pipeline.  Sound is just one of the applications
> that needs the kind of realtime support we (or more properly, Davide) just
> proposed.

I'm not looking at creating a true realtime policy of any sort. Mine is more a 
dynamic policy change to an interactive state that is sustained, which gives 
no more capabilities to a normal user process than they can currently get on 
SCHED_NORMAL tasks. Audio will definitely get priority... along with any 
other interactive task, but not in a real time fashion. Basically they 
effectively get a nice -5 unless they do the wrong thing.

Con


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-13 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-11 10:53 [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_ISO for interactivity Con Kolivas
     [not found] ` <1068.::ffff:217.208.49.177.1057927722.squirrel@lanil.mine.nu>
2003-07-11 14:30   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-11 23:37     ` Christian Axelsson
2003-07-12  0:13       ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-12 15:39         ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-12 16:27           ` Michael Buesch
2003-07-12 16:28           ` Christian Axelsson
2003-07-13  2:26             ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-13  3:40               ` Christian Axelsson
2003-07-13 20:07               ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-12 15:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-12 15:53   ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-13 20:03   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-07-14  0:13     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2003-07-14  2:40       ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-13 10:41 Guillaume Chazarain
2003-07-13 11:54 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-07-13 14:06   ` Con Kolivas
     [not found] <JEPOQNA0LFV95MFCPMSKONGFSNX.3f113751@monpc>
2003-07-13 12:53 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-13 14:54 Guillaume Chazarain
2003-07-14  0:07 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-14  4:05 ` Con Kolivas
2003-07-14 15:40 Guillaume Chazarain
2003-07-14 21:45 ` Con Kolivas

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