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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@colin2.muc.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Export touch_nmi_watchdog
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 21:15:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030805211554.B603@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030805211416.GD31598@colin2.muc.de>; from ak@colin2.muc.de on Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:14:16PM +0200

On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:14:16PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Otherwise this will just keep on expanding. 
> 
> It does expand on i386 exactly because the watchdog is disabled by default.
> 
> Looks like a mistake to me. It should be on because having usable backtraces
> on a deadlock/hang is useful enough that it outweights any other possible
> disadvantages. That's especially true for kernels out there at user's boxes,
> not just special debugging kernels run by developers.
> 
> [if there should be any hardware where it doesn't work it should be blacklisted
> there]

the reason it's off is that certain IBM bioses corrupt the eax register on
NMI's when they collide with smm stuff... You'd be surprised how
tolerant x86 is against such corruptions... but not 100%  :)

  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-05 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-05 19:29 [PATCH] Export touch_nmi_watchdog Andi Kleen
2003-08-05 19:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-05 20:08   ` Andi Kleen
2003-08-05 20:20     ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-05 20:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-08-05 20:31         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-05 21:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-08-05 21:05             ` Tim Hockin
2003-08-05 21:14             ` Andi Kleen
2003-08-05 21:15               ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2003-08-05 21:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2003-08-05 22:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-08-06  0:07                 ` Andi Kleen
2003-08-06 11:06                   ` Ingo Oeser
2003-08-06 15:31                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-08-05 20:45         ` Andi Kleen
2003-08-05 21:11       ` Andi Kleen

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