All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 16:45:58 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030907072034.435C62C308@lists.samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:54:18 +0100." <20030905205418.GA6019@mail.jlokier.co.uk>

In message <20030905205418.GA6019@mail.jlokier.co.uk> you write:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Now, if mremap doesn't move the memory, futexes aren't broken, even
> > without your patch, right?  If it does move, you've got a futex
> > sitting in invalid memory, no surprise if it doesn't work.
> 
> If the mremap doesn't move the memory it's fine.  No surprise :)
> 
> If it's moved, then the program isn't broken - it knows it just did an
> mremap, and it sends the wakeup to the new address.
> 
> This makes sense if async futexes are used on an in-memory private
> database.  But such programs can just use MAP_ANON|MAP_SHARED if they
> want mremap to work.

wakeup is not a problem: from the kernel's POV, between wakeups the
futex doesn't exist.

The only real case (ignoring the "one thread FUTEX_WAIT while the
other mremaps underneath" which is gonna break anyway), is FUTEX_FD, I
don't see a problem with having to manually move your futex fds in
this case when the memory underneath them has been remapped.  In fact,
it'd be surprising if you didn't have to.

> > OTOH, I'm interested in returning EFAULT on waiters when pages are
> > unmapped, because I realized that stale waiters could "match" live

> Ah, you're right.  Not fixing that is a serious bug.
> It can happen when an async futex fd is passed to another process.

> ps. There's another bug: shared waiters match inodes, which they don't
> hold a reference to.  Inodes can be recycled too.  Fix is easy: just
> need to take an inode reference.

Yes.  Invalidate is nice because it catches a programmer mistake.  But
why not solve the problem by just holding an mm reference, too?

Cheers,
Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-07  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-26  3:12 [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix Rusty Russell
2003-08-26  4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26  5:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26  5:50     ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26  5:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26  6:14         ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26  6:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26  7:02             ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26  7:56               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26  8:08                 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26  8:11                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26  8:25                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26  9:02                     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 10:38                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 10:44                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 10:45                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 17:29                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 19:35                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27  5:17   ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27  6:20     ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-28  0:47       ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-28  8:21         ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-29  3:46           ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-29  4:17             ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-30  7:49               ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01  0:35             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  4:11               ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 20:57                 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02  3:12                   ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-02  6:51                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 16:14                       ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 19:54                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 20:15                           ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 21:20                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03  2:40                         ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03  7:36                           ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 11:19                             ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 14:38                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:39                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:55                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:06                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 18:19                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:43                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 19:05                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 19:40                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 20:04                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04  2:43                                           ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04  8:28                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 12:20                                               ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 15:40                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 16:55                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 18:38                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:46                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 20:04                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:49                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 22:10                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:16                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-05  3:55                                     ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 17:55                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:26                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04  1:30                               ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 21:00                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-05  5:19                                   ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 20:54                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07  6:45                                       ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2003-09-07 13:20                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08  1:49                                           ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-08  9:44                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 14:40                             ` [PATCH 2] Little fixes to previous futex patch Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 16:45                               ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 17:59                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:35                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 20:11                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:36                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 21:58                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07  7:23                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-07 12:27                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-07 15:03                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08  1:56                                             ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-07 13:00                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08  3:32                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-08  9:33                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08  9:57                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-05  4:56                                   ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 15:34                             ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 17:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04  1:35                             ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 17:35                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03  0:14                       ` [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix Rusty Russell
2003-09-03  1:16                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-03  1:54                           ` Dave Hansen
2003-09-03  2:54                             ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02  3:23                   ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 23:58                     ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27  8:37     ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-27  8:56       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 10:38       ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-27 10:57         ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-28  8:03       ` Rusty Russell

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20030907072034.435C62C308@lists.samba.org \
    --to=rusty@rustcorp.com.au \
    --cc=akpm@osdl.org \
    --cc=hugh@veritas.com \
    --cc=jamie@shareable.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=torvalds@osdl.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.