From: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Hourihane <alanh-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ducrot Bruno <ducrot-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Applications & ACPI events
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:58:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031008215850.GF1238@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031008215342.GE1920-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
Hi!
> > IMO X should do full save and restore, on every console switch. That
> > way it is safe to killall -9 X when you are on console, and I think I
> > like it that way. I do not think console switching is i386-only, I
> > know that sparc64's had consoles, too.
>
> Doing a kill -9 on any application doesn't allow the application to
> catch the signal. Thus X cannot restore itself, and neither can any
> application that gets it. If you kill -9 anything then suffer the
> consequences of it not cleaning up.
I should be able to kill -9 any task and keep my system running (I'm
not complaining about stale lock files etc). Unfortunately that is not
true with X. It would be nice if at kill -9 would be safe at least
when kernel has control of display.
> > OTOH if X knew how to bring video card up from powerdown... that would
> > help a lot, and would need a kernel support. ("Hey, X, I just did
> > resume and graphics card is uninitialized. It is not even in vga text
> > mode. Do something with it.")
>
> Most drivers in X do know how to bring up the video chip from an
> uninitialized state. If the kernel is doing a VT switch internally and
> back again on resume then it should just work.
Kernel is doing VT switch in -test6. But I do not really think X can
bring up the video chip... are you really able to program video card
memory timings and similar stuff? On what cards?
Pavel
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2003-09-30 16:59 Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20030930165926.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-09-30 17:36 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20030930173646.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-03 19:38 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031003193814.GE205-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 12:49 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20031006124935.GQ11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 13:05 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031006130533.GA311-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 10:27 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20031008102745.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 19:16 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031008191610.GB1035-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:53 ` Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20031008215342.GE1920-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:58 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
[not found] ` <20031008215850.GF1238-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 12:36 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031009123620.GD13739-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:32 ` Applications & ACPI eventse Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031009213245.GB365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 23:56 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031009235607.GA13514-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 7:12 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031010071231.GA285-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 11:19 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031010111934.GA10620-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 12:37 ` Bas Mevissen
[not found] ` <3F86A7F7.6090406-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:17 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031010131739.GA24389-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:57 ` Bas Mevissen
2003-10-10 7:43 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-09 14:06 ` Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20031009140648.GH1922-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:35 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031009213504.GC365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:10 ` Ducrot Bruno
[not found] ` <20031013131022.GN11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:38 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013133837.GA9178-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 15:28 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013152807.GD15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:14 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013161445.GA32511-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:19 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013161937.GF15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:01 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013170119.GB18363-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:05 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-13 17:09 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310130958540.17450-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:17 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013171704.GH15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 18:59 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20031013185914.GB1958-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 19:08 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14 23:04 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310141556320.803-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-14 23:45 ` Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20031014234538.GD1918-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-14 23:55 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031014235550.GE20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 0:01 ` Karol Kozimor
2003-10-15 16:20 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150907450.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 17:07 ` Alan Hourihane
2003-10-14 23:52 ` Hardware state saving & X Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031014235240.GD20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:32 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150924400.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 19:13 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-16 0:10 ` Alan Hourihane
[not found] ` <20031016001001.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-16 15:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-13 15:26 ` Applications & ACPI events Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20031013152637.GC15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:21 ` Ducrot Bruno
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2003-10-15 17:01 Grover, Andrew
[not found] ` <F760B14C9561B941B89469F59BA3A8470255EF4E-sBd4vmA9Se4Lll3ZsUKC9FDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:59 ` Patrick Mochel
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