From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262099AbTJSLot (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:44:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262106AbTJSLot (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:44:49 -0400 Received: from p508B634F.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.139.99.79]:49837 "EHLO dea.linux-mips.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262099AbTJSLos (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:44:48 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:43:55 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Norman Diamond Cc: "Mudama, Eric" , "'Hans Reiser '" , "'Wes Janzen '" , "'Rogier Wolff '" , "'John Bradford '" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nikita@namesys.com, "'Pavel Machek '" , "'Justin Cormack '" , "'Russell King '" , "'Vitaly Fertman '" , "'Krzysztof Halasa '" Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results are in Message-ID: <20031019114355.GA29062@linux-mips.org> References: <785F348679A4D5119A0C009027DE33C105CDB300@mcoexc04.mlm.maxtor.com> <021501c39618$615619c0$24ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <021501c39618$615619c0$24ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 05:09:36PM +0900, Norman Diamond wrote: > How to force reallocations even when data are lost, so that the block number > can still be accessed even though the data will be random or zeroes until it > gets written again. How to force reallocations even when data are lost, to > prevent a different problem (i.e. if the block is not reallocated and then a > subsequent write appears to succeed, I don't really think that spot on the > platter has really reliably recovered even if you think so, I think the new > data might still get lost again in a few milliseconds or minutes). > > > If every other part of your computer is warrantied for 1 year, why should > > disk drives alone in the cheapest OEM systems carry 3 year warranties? > > Why does RAM carry 6 year warranties? (Maybe some don't but this is > common.) The distribution of RAM failure over time is different. Most failure of RAM tend to be in the first few days or even hours. After that the rate drops to a very low value for the next few years. In other words a long warranty time won't cause alot of cost for the manufacturer nor benefit customers much. But it looks good in advertisment ... Ralf