From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Patrick Caulfield Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Drive gone bad, now what? Message-ID: <20031028081933.GA1629@tykepenguin.com> References: <20031021171817.GA28462@mail.parplies.de> <3F985B2D.5060008@xs4all.nl> <16280.27367.874758.610758@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3F98B691.7090902@webhackande.se> <3F9989C9.1070909@xs4all.nl> <16285.12868.20878.180441@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3F9DB7D8.5080502@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F9DB7D8.5080502@xs4all.nl> Sender: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com Errors-To: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com Reply-To: linux-lvm@sistina.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Oct 28 02:20:02 2003 List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-lvm@sistina.com On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:27:04AM +0100, Gert van der Knokke wrote: > John Stoffel wrote: > > >Gert> I didn't expect lvm to restore the missing data, I guessed it > >Gert> would just let me access the rest of the data. > > > >At this point, you have to think, how can my filesystem cope with the > >loss of a 60gb chunk of data in the middle (start or end even) of the > >300+ gb of data? There's all sorts of meta-data and true data which > >is now gone, and re-building the filesystem into a consistent state is > >really impossible. > > > Hmm, and so I think LVM still needs a warning label :-) > > I wonder why LVM doesn't work the other way around: > Create filesystems on several disks and then concatenate these to the > outside as one large filesystem. This way if one drive goes bad you can > always individually mount the drives and use the data. > > >If you are looking for a large/cheap/reliable bunch of storage, > >instead of mirroring, you might want to think about RAID5 instead. > > > No, what we're looking for is an 'expandable as needed' filesystem and > this is what LVM pretends to be. No. LVM does in no way "pretend to be a file system". It's an expandable block device. What the filesystem does with that block device is up to it. If a disk fails and you're not using RAID then you restore from backups. -- patrick