From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Vine <chris@cvine.freeserve.co.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.0-test9 - poor swap performance on low end machines
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:37:34 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200310312337.34778.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031031112615.GA10530@k3.hellgate.ch>
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:26, Roger Luethi wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:57:23 -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Chris Vine wrote:
> > > However, on a low end machine (200MHz Pentium MMX uniprocessor with
> > > only 32MB of RAM and 70MB of swap) I get poor performance once
> > > extensive use is made of the swap space.
> >
> > Could you try the patch Con Kolivas posted on the 25th ?
> >
> > Subject: [PATCH] Autoregulate vm swappiness cleanup
>
> I suppose it will show some improvement but fail to get performance
> anywhere near 2.4 -- at least that's what my own tests found. I've been
> working on a break-down of where we're losing it.
> Bottom line: It's not simply a price we pay for feature X or Y. It's
> all over the map, and thus no single patch can possibly fix it.
Yes it will show improvement, and I would like to hear how much given how
simple it is, but I agree with you. There is an intrinsic difference in the
vm in 2.6 that makes it too hard for multiple running applications to have a
small piece of the action instead of giving out big pieces of the action.
While it is better in most circumstances I believe you describe well the
problem under vm overload. I guess encoding a vm scheduler will help (and
clearly 2.8 territory) but at what overhead cost? I have no idea myself, as
now I'm pulling catch-phrases out of my arse that I hate hearing others use
(see any lkml thread about scheduling from people who don't code).
Cheers,
Con
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-31 12:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-29 22:30 2.6.0-test9 - poor swap performance on low end machines Chris Vine
2003-10-31 3:57 ` Rik van Riel
2003-10-31 11:26 ` Roger Luethi
2003-10-31 12:37 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2003-10-31 12:59 ` Roger Luethi
2003-10-31 12:55 ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-11-01 18:34 ` Pasi Savolainen
2003-11-06 18:40 ` bill davidsen
2003-10-31 21:52 ` Chris Vine
2003-11-02 23:06 ` Chris Vine
2003-11-03 0:48 ` Con Kolivas
2003-11-03 21:13 ` Chris Vine
2003-11-04 2:55 ` Con Kolivas
2003-11-04 22:08 ` Chris Vine
2003-11-04 22:30 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-08 13:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-08 14:23 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-08 14:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 21:03 ` Chris Vine
2003-12-13 14:08 ` Chris Vine
2003-12-08 19:49 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-08 20:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 0:27 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-09 4:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 15:11 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-09 16:04 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-09 16:31 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-09 18:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-09 19:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-10 13:58 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-10 17:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-10 22:23 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-11 0:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-10 21:04 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-10 23:17 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-11 1:31 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-11 10:16 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-10 23:30 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-10 21:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-10 22:05 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-10 22:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-11 1:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-11 10:16 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-15 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-15 23:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-15 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-16 0:17 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-16 11:23 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-16 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 11:03 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-17 11:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-17 16:50 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-17 11:33 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 18:53 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 19:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-17 19:51 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-17 19:49 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-17 21:41 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-17 21:41 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-18 0:21 ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-18 22:53 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-18 23:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
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