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From: Peter Kirk <pwk.linuxfan@gmx.de>
To: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: smart and automatic use of dmix and dsnoop - feature suggestion.
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:01:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311141401.13736.pwk.linuxfan@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311141221.hAECLqlT003018@oud.linuxaudiosystems.com>

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Am Freitag, 14. November 2003 13:21 schrieb Paul Davis:
> >So, these are two numbers - and basicly all is fine as long as you dont
> > wan= t=20
> >to excede them, but if you do, you need to use dmix or dsnoop. Why not
> > use= =20
> >dmix and dsnoop automaticly when necessary ? Wouldnt it be possible to
> > have=
>
> because it would be catastrophic, or, well, at least very bad, for
> applications that want to "sit close to the metal".
>
> this is a user-space configuration issue, not something that alsa-lib
> should do by default. if the user (or the distributor) defines "dmix"
> to be the default device type, then every conformant ALSA application
> will do the right thing. apps like JACK that want to "site close to
> the metal" will still use "hw:N" unless you tell it otherwise, but
> consumer apps will use "default" (that's what i mean by conformant)
> and get dmix behaviour.
Hmm,

are you telling me that normal applications will already automaticly use
dmix ? Its a pitty my soundcard (SB Live!) can play so many streams in
hardware at once, so I dont realy know if alsa is doing dmixing *on*the*fly*.
But I did *think* that if you had a cheepo laptop, you couldnt open 5 xmms
and 5 xines and start playing back with all of them - I could be wrong of
course. The thing Im quite certain of, is that there is no dmix jumping in if
you try to run 2 playback oss apps through the oss emulation layer of alsa -
this will give you trouble if your soundcard cant play two streams in
hardware.
Then there still would be the point with dsnoop - I _know_ it doesnt work on
my soundcard to open two instances of TeamSpeak (voice communication -> full
duplex) - and be able to talk and hear on both...this is because the capture
device is taken.
Is there anything being thought about of something like the automagic
dsnooping I was talking about ? It realy would be nice to be able to use
multiple applications of teamspeak on *normal* soundcards like mine...

Peter
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-14 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-14  1:43 smart and automatic use of dmix and dsnoop - feature suggestion Peter Kirk
2003-11-14 12:21 ` Paul Davis
2003-11-14 13:01   ` Peter Kirk [this message]
2003-11-14 13:20     ` Takashi Iwai
2003-11-14 15:11       ` Mark Hubbard
2003-11-14 15:31         ` Takashi Iwai
2003-11-15  2:46           ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17  1:37           ` Mark Hubbard
2003-11-17  9:56             ` Frank Barknecht
2003-11-17 10:32             ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]               ` <200311171434.50285.pwk.linuxfan@gmx.de>
2003-11-17 14:33                 ` Takashi Iwai
2003-11-17 17:16                   ` Mark Hubbard
2003-11-17 18:23                     ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17 18:50                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-11-17 19:08                         ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17 19:36                           ` Paul Davis
2003-11-17 20:05                             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2003-11-17 20:28                               ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17 21:58                                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2003-11-18  5:51                                   ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-18  7:30                                     ` Paul Davis
2003-11-17 20:32                               ` Paul Davis
2003-11-17 18:18                   ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17 18:49                     ` Takashi Iwai
2003-11-17 19:16                       ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17 19:40                         ` Paul Davis
2003-11-17 19:48                           ` Peter Kirk
2003-11-17 20:34                             ` Paul Davis
2003-11-17 20:04                       ` Florian Schmidt
2003-11-17 18:30               ` Peter Kirk

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