From: Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Bradley Chapman <kakadu_croc@yahoo.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What exactly are the issues with 2.6.0-test10 preempt?
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:55:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311250755.07577.josh@stack.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311241429330.15101@home.osdl.org>
On Monday 24 Nov 2003 22:32, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Basically, there's something strange going on, which _seems_ to be memory
> corruption, and seems to correlate reasonable well (but not 100%) with
> CONFIG_PREEMPT.
>
> It's actually unlikely to be preemption itself that is broken: it's much
> more likely that some driver or other subsystem is broken, and preempt is
> just better at triggering it by making some race conditions much easier to
> see due to bigger windows for them to happen.
>
> The problem is finding enough of a pattern to the reports to make sense of
> what seems to be the common thread. A lot of people use preemption without
> any trouble.
Maybe brute force is the best way to deal with this nasty one ? I'm thinking:
It must be rather easy to make a tool that takes a .config file and an
argument "This kernel seems in trouble Yes / No". If an option is enabled,
and this kernel config crashes, you increase the likelihood of that option
(i.e. you increment a counter). If an option is enabled, and this kernel
doesn't crash. you decrement a counter. In the end, you'll end with
statistics about which kernel option is likely to cause problems.
Jos
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-25 6:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-24 19:14 What exactly are the issues with 2.6.0-test10 preempt? Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 21:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-24 21:29 ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 21:47 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-24 21:55 ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-24 22:26 ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-24 22:45 ` Bradley Chapman
2003-11-24 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-24 23:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-25 7:55 ` Jos Hulzink [this message]
2003-11-24 22:41 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-11-24 22:51 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-25 1:37 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-11-25 17:22 ` bill davidsen
2003-11-24 22:57 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-25 7:17 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-11-25 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-30 9:09 ` Matthias Urlichs
[not found] <20031124224514.56242.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311241452550.15101@home.osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-11-24 23:50 ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-25 0:00 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-25 0:05 ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-25 0:16 ` Chris Mason
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2003-11-25 18:13 kernel
2003-11-25 18:14 root
2003-11-25 18:31 kernel
2003-11-26 9:30 ` Jens Axboe
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