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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fire Engine??
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:29:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031127002947.2d731219.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031126151352.160b4734.davem@redhat.com>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:13:52 -0800
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:56:41 +0100
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:36:20 -0800
> > "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't think this is acceptable.  It's important that all
> > > of the timestamps are as accurate as they were before.
> > 
> > I disagree on that. The window is small and slowing down 99.99999% of all 
> > users who never care about this for this extremely obscure
> > misdesigned API does not make  much sense to me.
> 
> We can't change behavior like this.  Every time we've tried to
> do it, we've been burnt.  Remember nonlocal-bind?

The behaviour is not really changed, just the precision of the timestamp
is temporarily (a few tens of ms on a busy network) worse. 

And the jitter in this timestamp is already higher than this when
you consider queueing delays and interrupt mitigation in the driver.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-26 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <BAY1-DAV15JU71pROHD000040e2@hotmail.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20031125183035.1c17185a.davem@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-11-26  9:53   ` Fire Engine?? Andi Kleen
2003-11-26 11:35     ` John Bradford
2003-11-26 18:50       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-26 19:19         ` Diego Calleja García
2003-11-26 19:59           ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-27  3:54           ` Bill Huey
2003-11-26 15:00     ` Trond Myklebust
2003-11-26 23:01       ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-26 23:23         ` Trond Myklebust
2003-11-26 23:38           ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-26 19:30     ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 19:58       ` Paul Menage
2003-11-26 20:03         ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 22:29           ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-26 22:36             ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 22:56               ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-26 23:13                 ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 23:29                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2003-11-26 23:41                   ` Ben Greear
2003-11-27  0:01                     ` Fast timestamps David S. Miller
2003-11-27  0:30                       ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2003-11-27  1:57                       ` Ben Greear
2003-11-26 20:01       ` Fire Engine?? Jamie Lokier
2003-11-26 20:04         ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 21:54         ` Pekka Pietikainen
2003-11-26 20:22       ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-11-26 21:02         ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 21:24           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-26 21:38             ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26 23:43               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-26 21:34       ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-11-26 22:58         ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-27 12:16           ` Ingo Oeser
2003-11-26 22:39       ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-26 22:46         ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26  0:15 Mr. BOFH
2003-11-26  2:30 ` David S. Miller
2003-11-26  5:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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