From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261731AbUBJVxK (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:53:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261744AbUBJVwu (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:52:50 -0500 Received: from thunk.org ([140.239.227.29]:64458 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261731AbUBJVwq (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:52:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:52:25 -0500 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Bill Davidsen Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Does anyone still care about BSD ptys? Message-ID: <20040210215225.GA1666@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Bill Davidsen , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1ne1M-1Oc-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <4029364F.9030905@tmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4029364F.9030905@tmr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 02:51:43PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Sorry, last reply "just went" for some reason... ijn any case I hope the > number and tone of replies has shown that a number of people DO care, > and that "you can just program around it with your effort instead of > mine" isn't going to be popular. > > In other words, this sounds more like 2.7 material where people expect > things to change than something which should just suddenly break in 2.6. > Violation of Plauger's Law of Least Astonishment and all that. I think the discussion has always been that this would be a 2.7 item. However, it might be useful to make 2.6 start issueing printk's *now* when a program uses a BSD pty, so that application programs have plenty of notice that they will be going away. - Ted