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From: Nate Lawson <nate-Y6VGUYTwhu0@public.gmane.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Yu, Luming" <luming.yu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Karol Kozimor <sziwan-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>,
	acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: ACPI Thermal Shutdown on Boot
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:24:23 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040215122249.V20266@root.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040213190646.GH6804-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > If I understand you correctly, 30 seconds is certainly
> > > enough time to burn
> > > > a CPU when the fan has failed, isn't it?
> > >
> > > Our old default poll interval was 30 seconds so this doesn't change
> > > anything.  I know DeadRat takes more than 30 seconds from "shutdown -h
> > > now" to power off.  All modern CPUs have a thermal shutdown builtin.
> > > Think of _CRT as more of "system temp too high, shut down as
> > > soon as you
> > > can."
> >
> >   If I didn't miss something,  Chris Jensen was unable to adjust
> > critical trip point due
> > to current policy. Anyway, 57C isn't a real critical temperature. It
> > doesn't make sense to
> > enter emergent shutdown/power.So we need sane checking here.( A sane
> > _CRT ?)
> >   If FAN is broken, at least we can use throttling to guarantee it will
> > not be over heated.
> > So, throttling should be included into policy about handling critical
> > trip point.
>
> At critical trip point, we have to shut down, according
> to specs. No choice here.
>
> If their ACPI BIOS is b0rken, blacklist them.

My point was that shutdown to poweroff takes about 10 seconds on FreeBSD
but much longer on common Linux distributions.  So even with a little
delay, the system gets shut down at the same time.  This is better than
blacklisting the system (a Compaq laptop) and not having any _CRT
protection.  But Linux can do it however you want.

-Nate


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-15 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-12  2:52 ACPI Thermal Shutdown on Boot Yu, Luming
     [not found] ` <3ACA40606221794F80A5670F0AF15F8401CBB6A6-SRlDPOYGfgogGBtAFL8yw7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-13 19:06   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20040213190646.GH6804-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-15 20:24       ` Nate Lawson [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20040215122249.V20266-Y6VGUYTwhu0@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-15 20:29           ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-11  3:51 Yu, Luming
     [not found] ` <3ACA40606221794F80A5670F0AF15F8401CBB690-SRlDPOYGfgogGBtAFL8yw7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-11  6:01   ` Nate Lawson
     [not found]     ` <20040210215906.H85854-Y6VGUYTwhu0@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-11 10:59       ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]         ` <20040211105908.GB30647-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2004-02-11 17:48           ` Nate Lawson
2004-02-10  6:48 Chris Jensen

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