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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:00:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040219090045.GC1269@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040219102900.GC14000@marowsky-bree.de>

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:29:00AM +0100, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2004-02-18T14:51:32,
>    Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> said:
> 
> > a) Does the export make technical sense?  Do filesystems have
> >    legitimate need for access to this symbol?
> > 
> > (really, a) is sufficient grounds, but for real-world reasons:)
> 
> Technically, I assume both OCFS, Lustre, (OpenGFS), PolyServe and
> basically /everyone/ doing a cluster file system, proprietary or not,
> will eventually need this capability. Vendors have included hooks for
> this in 2.4 already anyway.
> 
> So on technical grounds, I'm strongly inclined to support it, but I
> would like to suggest that it is ensured that the hook is sufficient for
> all of the named CFS.
> 
> Paul, have you spoken with them?

Lustre, yes.  At OLS last summer, Peter Braam said that it was useful.
The others, no, but they are certainly free to chime in.

> > b) Does the IBM filsystem meet the kernel's licensing requirements?
> 
> If you are worried about this one, you can export it GPL-only, which as
> an Open Source developer I'd appreciate, but from a real-world business
> perspective would be unhappy about ;-)

Been there, done that.  ;-)

						Thanx, Paul

> Sincerely,
>     Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>
> 
> -- 
> High Availability & Clustering	      \ ever tried. ever failed. no matter.
> SUSE Labs			      | try again. fail again. fail better.
> Research & Development, SUSE LINUX AG \ 	-- Samuel Beckett
> 
> 

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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:00:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040219090045.GC1269@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040219102900.GC14000@marowsky-bree.de>

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:29:00AM +0100, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2004-02-18T14:51:32,
>    Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> said:
> 
> > a) Does the export make technical sense?  Do filesystems have
> >    legitimate need for access to this symbol?
> > 
> > (really, a) is sufficient grounds, but for real-world reasons:)
> 
> Technically, I assume both OCFS, Lustre, (OpenGFS), PolyServe and
> basically /everyone/ doing a cluster file system, proprietary or not,
> will eventually need this capability. Vendors have included hooks for
> this in 2.4 already anyway.
> 
> So on technical grounds, I'm strongly inclined to support it, but I
> would like to suggest that it is ensured that the hook is sufficient for
> all of the named CFS.
> 
> Paul, have you spoken with them?

Lustre, yes.  At OLS last summer, Peter Braam said that it was useful.
The others, no, but they are certainly free to chime in.

> > b) Does the IBM filsystem meet the kernel's licensing requirements?
> 
> If you are worried about this one, you can export it GPL-only, which as
> an Open Source developer I'd appreciate, but from a real-world business
> perspective would be unhappy about ;-)

Been there, done that.  ;-)

						Thanx, Paul

> Sincerely,
>     Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
> 
> -- 
> High Availability & Clustering	      \ ever tried. ever failed. no matter.
> SUSE Labs			      | try again. fail again. fail better.
> Research & Development, SUSE LINUX AG \ 	-- Samuel Beckett
> 
> 
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Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-16 19:09 Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-16 19:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-17  2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-17  2:31   ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-17  7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17  7:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 12:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-17 12:40     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18  0:19     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18  0:19       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 12:51       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-18 14:00         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 14:00           ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 21:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 21:10             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 15:06             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 15:06               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 22:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 22:21                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 22:51                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 22:51                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 23:00                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 23:00                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 16:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 16:21                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 23:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 23:32                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 12:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 12:32                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 18:56                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 18:56                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 19:01                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 19:01                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 13:04                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 13:04                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  3:17                             ` Anton Blanchard
2004-02-20  3:17                               ` Anton Blanchard
2004-02-20 21:46                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-19  0:28                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19  0:28                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 18:36                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 18:36                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 12:31                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 12:31                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19  9:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19  9:11                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 18:32                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19 18:38                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 19:16                             ` viro
2004-02-19 19:16                               ` viro
2004-02-19 16:15                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 16:15                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 18:59                         ` Tim Bird
2004-02-19 18:59                           ` Tim Bird
2004-02-20  1:27                       ` David Schwartz
2004-02-19  9:11                   ` David Weinehall
2004-02-19  9:11                     ` David Weinehall
2004-02-19  8:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19  8:58                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-04  5:51                       ` Mike Fedyk
2004-03-04  5:51                         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-19 10:29                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19 10:29                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19  9:00                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2004-02-19  9:00                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 11:11                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 11:53                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19 11:53                         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-18 18:04         ` Tim Bird
2004-02-18 18:04           ` Tim Bird
2004-02-19 20:56       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 20:56         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 22:06         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-02-19 22:06           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-02-19 22:31           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 22:31             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 16:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 16:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  2:06               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20  2:06                 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 19:47                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 19:47                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  5:07                   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20  5:07                     ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 12:02                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 12:02                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 20:37                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 20:37                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 14:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 14:01                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 23:00                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 23:00                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 16:17                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 16:17                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-21  3:19                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-21  3:19                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-21 19:00                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-22 23:39                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 21:04                                   ` [RFC] Distributed mmap API Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 21:04                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 19:12                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 19:12                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 19:14                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 19:14                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 22:07                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:07                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:07                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 22:07                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 22:16                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:16                                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:46                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 22:46                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:00                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:00                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:15                                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-03  3:15                                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-03 13:06                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03 13:06                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-04 18:55                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-04 18:55                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 21:17                         ` Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-20 21:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-20 22:16                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 22:16                             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 23:56                             ` GFS requirements (was: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range) Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-21  3:16                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-21 14:17                                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-21 19:09                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-22 10:37                                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-24 18:26                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-18 12:12     ` Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Dominik Kubla
2004-02-18 12:12       ` Dominik Kubla
     [not found]   ` <24651326.1077037044@42.150.104.212.access.eclipse.net.uk>
2004-02-18 13:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 22:22 ` David Weinehall
2004-02-17 22:22   ` David Weinehall

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