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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <mzyngier@freesurf.fr>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	jgarzik@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [3C509] Fix sysfs leak.
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:30:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040316153018.GB17958@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wrpwu5kessd.fsf@panther.wild-wind.fr.eu.org>

On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 04:05:38PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
 > >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com> writes:
 > 
 > Dave,
 > 
 > Dave> The damned bus doesn't even exist. If this is a case that couldn't be
 > Dave> detected, I'd not be complaining, but this is just nonsense having
 > Dave> a driver claim that its found an EISA device, when there aren't even
 > Dave> any EISA slots on the board.
 > 
 > The driver doesn't claim to have found any device. It just registered
 > to the EISA framework, which you compiled in for a reason.

which is valid for a single kernel image that supports boxes both with
and without eisa (ie, vendor kernels).

 > Unload the driver and the directory will go.

no it doesn't, which is the whole purpose of the patch I sent.
try it..

modprobe 3c509
lsmod | grep 3c509     # module didnt stay around
find /sys | grep 3c509 # oh look, it left crap in sysfs


 > Dave> This happens long after bus initialisation should have already figured
 > Dave> out that the bus doesn't exist. Even if it was left this late, the
 > Dave> eisa registration code should be doing a 'oh, I've not even checked
 > Dave> if I have a bus yet, I'll do it now' before it starts doing completely
 > Dave> bogus things like checking for devices.
 > 
 > Sure. When EISA bus is hanging off the PCI bus, which haven't been
 > probed yet ?

We have multiple levels of initcalls for a reason. Whilst they suck in a lot
of ways, they can be used to enforce dependancies like this.

 > When the driver registers, the EISA framework may not
 > have a f*cking clue about where the EISA bus sits, or if it even
 > exists.

Why is this even an issue so late on? Bus probing should have been done as
part of bootup. By the time I get to modprobing device drivers, it should have
been determined already.

Your argument seems to be "probing is hard, so we don't do it", which is
just *wrong*.

		Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-16 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-15 21:47 [3C509] Fix sysfs leak davej
2004-03-16 10:56 ` Marc Zyngier
2004-03-16 13:46   ` Dave Jones
2004-03-16 14:09     ` Marc Zyngier
2004-03-16 14:29       ` Dave Jones
2004-03-16 15:05         ` Marc Zyngier
2004-03-16 15:30           ` Dave Jones [this message]
2004-03-16 16:05             ` Marc Zyngier
2004-03-16 16:16               ` Dave Jones
2004-03-16 15:58         ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-03-19 16:36           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-03-16 16:06     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-16 16:13       ` Dave Jones

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