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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Cc: cmm@us.ibm.com, tytso@mit.edu, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH] Reservation based ext3 preallocation
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:36:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040330103643.07c94296.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200403300907.33995.pbadari@us.ibm.com>

Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 01:45 am, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> > - Using ext3_find_next_zero_bit(bitmap_bh->b_data in
> >   alloc_new_reservation() is risky.  There are some circumstances when you
> >   have a huge number of "free" blocks in ->b_data, but they are all unfree
> >   in ->b_committed_data.  You could end up with astronomical search
> >   complexity in there.  You should search both bitmaps to find a block
> >   which really is allocatable.  Otherwise you'll have
> >   ext3_try_to_allocate() failing 20,000 times in succession and much CPU
> >   will be burnt.
> 
> Can you explain this a little more ?  What does b->data and b->commited_data 
> represent ?  We are assuming that b->data will always be uptodate. 

The comment Alex pointed to is splendid ;)

> May be we should use ext3_test_allocatable() also.

I think so.

> > - There's a little program called `bmap' in
> >   http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/ext3-tools.tar.gz which
> >   can be used to dump out a file's block allocation map, to check
> >   fragmentation.
> 
> Thanks. will use that. We are using debugfs for now. Do you have any tools
> to dump out whats in journal ? I want to understand log format etc.. 
> Just curious.

I cannot think of any.  It wouldn't surprise me if e2fsck had a debug mode
which printed out this info, but I have not looked.

> >
> > Apart from that, looking good.  Where are the benchmarks? ;)
> 
> We are first concentrating on tiobench regression. We see clear
> degrade with tiobench on ext3, since it creates lots of files in the
> same directory. Once we are happy with tiobench, we go for others
> kernel untars, rawiobench etc.

OK..  dbench on SMP hardware shows poor layout also.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-30 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200403190846.56955.pbadari@us.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20040321015746.14b3c0dc.akpm@osdl.org>
2004-03-30  8:55   ` [RFC, PATCH] Reservation based ext3 preallocation Mingming Cao
2004-03-30  9:45     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-30 17:07       ` Badari Pulavarty
2004-03-30 17:12         ` [Ext2-devel] " Alex Tomas
2004-03-30 18:07           ` Badari Pulavarty
2004-03-30 18:23         ` Mingming Cao
2004-03-30 18:36         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-04-03  1:45       ` Mingming Cao
2004-04-03  1:50         ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-03  2:37           ` Mingming Cao
2004-04-03  2:50             ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-05 16:49               ` Mingming Cao
2004-04-14  0:52               ` [PATCH 0/4] ext3 block reservation patch set Mingming Cao
2004-04-14  0:54                 ` [PATCH 1/4] ext3 block reservation patch set -- ext3 preallocation cleanup Mingming Cao
2004-04-14  0:57                 ` [PATCH 2/4] ext3 block reservation patch set --ext3 block reservation Mingming Cao
2004-04-14  0:58                 ` [PATCH 3/4] ext3 block reservation patch set --mount and ioctl feature Mingming Cao
2004-04-14  1:00                 ` [PATCH 4/4] ext3 block reservation patch set -- dynamically increase reservation window Mingming Cao
2004-04-14  2:47                 ` [PATCH 0/4] ext3 block reservation patch set Andrew Morton
2004-04-14 16:11                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2004-04-14 17:44                     ` Mingming Cao
2004-04-14 23:02                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-14 23:12                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2004-04-14 16:42                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2004-04-14 17:30                   ` Mingming Cao
2004-04-14 23:07                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-14 23:42                       ` Mingming Cao
2004-04-21 23:34                       ` [PATCH] Lazy discard ext3 reservation window patch Mingming Cao
2004-04-27 15:19                 ` [PATCH 0/4] ext3 block reservation patch set Mary Edie Meredith

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