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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Ulrich Weigand <weigand@i1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6 nanosecond time stamp weirdness breaks GCC build
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 01:02:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040402000222.GA28520@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040401220957.5f4f9ad2.ak@suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> > However, I'd say that this should probably be fixed in the kernel,
> > e.g. by not reporting high-precision time stamps in the first
> > place if the file system cannot store them ...
> 
> Interesting. We discussed the case as a theoretical possibility when
> the patch was merged, but it seemed to unlikely to make it worth
> complicating the first version.
> 
> The solution from back then I actually liked best was to just round
> up to the next second instead of rounding down when going from 1s 
> resolution to ns.

Files spontaneously getting newer is also problem, although the
consequence is usually less severe than spontaneously getting older.

> -	raw_inode->i_atime = cpu_to_le32(inode->i_atime.tv_sec);
> -	raw_inode->i_ctime = cpu_to_le32(inode->i_ctime.tv_sec);
> -	raw_inode->i_mtime = cpu_to_le32(inode->i_mtime.tv_sec);
> +	/* round up because we cannot store nanoseconds. This avoids
> +	   the time jumping back when the inode is loaded again. */
> +	raw_inode->i_atime = cpu_to_le32(inode->i_atime.tv_sec + 1);
> +	raw_inode->i_ctime = cpu_to_le32(inode->i_ctime.tv_sec + 1);
> +	raw_inode->i_mtime = cpu_to_le32(inode->i_mtime.tv_sec + 1);

The patch always increments the stored seconds by one.  If an inode
is read, dirtied, then stored, the seconds fields will all be
incremented by 1 every time that happens, won't they?  I.e. every
change to atime interleaved by a flush will increment the seconds
field of ctime and mtime, won't it?

To round up the time properly, I think you need to change the code
that reads the inode, so that newly read inodes get a tv_nsec value of
999999999, and leave the writing code alone.

-- Jamie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-02  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 19:28 Linux 2.6 nanosecond time stamp weirdness breaks GCC build Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 20:39   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-04-01 20:46     ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 21:01       ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 21:44         ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 22:39     ` Joe Buck
2004-04-01 22:44       ` Paul Jarc
2004-04-01 22:48       ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 23:58         ` Joe Buck
2004-04-02  0:13           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-04-02  0:02   ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-04-02  0:35   ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02  1:14     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  7:57       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2004-04-02  9:22       ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02 16:23         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 20:45           ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02 21:07             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 21:56               ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-03  4:59       ` Andrew Pimlott
2004-04-02  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-07 16:03     ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-01 21:13 ` Janis Johnson
2004-04-01 21:41   ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-02  0:30   ` Alan Modra
2004-04-02  9:05 ` P
2004-04-02 17:27 ` Alexandre Oliva
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-01 20:51 Michael Elizabeth Chastain

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