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From: Bill Laut <wlsel@verizon.net>
To: SELinux Mailing List <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: Logo Artwork for SELinux?
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:07:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200404051607.49113.wlsel@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4070882D.1070201@cr-secure.net>

On Sunday 04 April 2004 06:11 pm, Chris wrote:
> Im not so sure, NSA needs a 'marketing' boon or boom (whichever you
> meant).
>

boon, n.  1. a welcome favor or blessing.
boom, v.i.:  To increase suddenly or grow swiftly; flourish.

In SELinux's case, the boon leads to the boom.  :-)

Perhaps the adjective "marketing" conjures disagreeable associations.  My 
thought here was more about basic human psychology and the natural desire to 
be part of the "in" crowd.  Having an SELinux button appearing on websites 
will surely attract attention, starting with the technical/security devotees;  
and as more favorable press coverage is given to SELinux, an SELinux button 
appearing on websites could become a "security talisman" of sorts to managers 
and other decision-makers who have become sensitized to its meaning. 

>
> But I for one would not mind a tasteful logo on my webserver
> that proclaims, protected by SElinux.
>

My point exactly.

--------------------------------

>From Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu:

>
> Although SELinux is a very slick and powerful tool, we have to keep in mind:
>
> "Computers aren't secured by tools, they're secured by proper policies and
> sysadmin vigilance".
>

You're preaching to the choir.  :-)

>
> On the other hand, a button that says "Webserver secured by an admin clued
> enough to install and manage SELinux properly".. Now *THAT* is a statement.
>

And which would never be legible on a standard-sized button, hence my pithy 
"Protected by SELinux" proposal.  Furthermore, as stated in my reply to 
Chris, decision-makers who begin seeing these buttons appearing on websites 
will likely be more inclined to regard SELinux as a serious tool, as opposed 
to marginalizing it as "just another toy" that the geeky/nerdy Admin wants to 
play with.

-----------------------------------------------

>From "Frank Mayer" <mayerf@tresys.com>:

>
> Not that I would necessarily recommend this one, but we've been using the 
> simple logon on our web site for a couple of years now: 
> http://www.tresys.com/selinux/
>

Personally, I'd like something that conformed to the same dimensions as found 
on the modssl site.

Here's a quick doodle I whipped up using GIMP (and borrowing the NSA's logo).  
I would have to make the text legible.  What do you think?  It says:

Protected By
SELinux      (NSA logo)
Mandatory Access Controls

Of course, I understand this is not an authorized use of the NSA's logo.  It 
is only done here as an exercise in stimulating thought and discussion.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-05 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-04 22:56 Logo Artwork for SELinux? Bill Laut
2004-04-04 22:11 ` Chris
2004-04-05 20:07   ` Bill Laut [this message]
2004-04-05 22:57     ` Bill McCarty
2004-04-06  5:06       ` Michael Pender
2004-04-06 14:51         ` Dan Thomsen
2004-04-07  2:03           ` Joshua Brindle
2004-04-07  4:57             ` Douglas Williams
2004-04-07  5:29             ` Bill Laut
2004-04-07  3:07           ` Douglas Williams
2004-04-07  5:22           ` Bill Laut
2004-04-07  8:36             ` Dale Amon
2004-04-08  3:43             ` Michael Pender
2004-04-08 13:45               ` Dan Thomsen
2004-04-05 14:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-05 21:11   ` Kerry Thompson
2004-04-05 22:56   ` Dean Anderson
2004-04-06  2:25     ` Bill Laut
2004-04-05 15:54 ` Frank Mayer
2004-04-06  1:44 ` Joshua Brindle
2004-04-10 11:07 ` Russell Coker
2004-04-10 16:08   ` Matthew J. Fanto
2004-04-10 21:24     ` Dale Amon
2004-04-12  7:29       ` Dean Anderson
2004-04-12 14:57         ` Elvedin Trnjanin
2004-04-12 15:14           ` Dale Amon
2004-04-12 15:18             ` Elvedin Trnjanin
2004-04-12 22:59               ` Tom Mitchell
2004-04-12 15:35             ` Stephen Smalley
2004-04-12 15:42             ` Russell Coker
2004-04-12 20:11             ` todd glassey
2004-04-13  0:21               ` Michael Pender
2004-04-13 14:33                 ` todd glassey
2004-04-14  9:05           ` Tom
2004-04-11  2:44     ` Russell Coker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-13 14:57 Dowd, Alan S
2004-04-14  9:10 ` Tom
2004-04-14 13:37   ` todd glassey
     [not found] <BCA3701A.9ED9%michael.pender@nanochron.com>
2004-04-15  5:26 ` Russell Coker

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