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On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 09:19:27AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 06:12, Richard Hirst wrote:
> > It may be relevant that the ISO had a rather long kernel commandline,
> > relative to the 127 char limit that palo claims.  I'm never sure
> > whether that 127 char limit is before or after palo adds all the
> > console and sti related parameters though.
> 
> That limit is absolute and may not be overrun.  The co-ordinates of the
> 64 bit kernel lie immediately after the 128 char buffer.  Usually the
> system is unbootable if you overrun this limit.

Unbootable, or unbootable on 64 bit h/w?

> Unfortunately, palo is rather poor about checking this limit when
> installing the image or modifying the command line...

and last time I tried building palo on a sid system to investigate
these hangs on boot, the result didn't work at all :(

Richard