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From: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>,
	wli@holomorphy.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: vmscan.c heuristic adjustment for smaller systems
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:30:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040417233037.GA15576@flea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040417162125.3296430a.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 04:21:25PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Marc Singer <elf@buici.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I'd say that there is no statistically significant difference between
> >  these sets of times.  However, after I've run the test program, I run
> >  the command "ls -l /proc"
> > 
> >  				 swappiness
> >  			60 (default)		0
> >  			------------		--------
> >  elapsed time(s)		18			1
> >  			30			1
> >  			33			1
> 
> How on earth can it take half a minute to list /proc?

I've watched the vmscan code at work.  The memory pressure is so high
that it reclaims mapped pages zealously.  The program's code pages are
being evicted frequently.

I would like to show a video of the ls -l /proc command.  It's
remarkable.  The program pauses after displaying each line.

> >  This is the problem.  Once RAM fills with IO buffers, the kernel's
> >  tendency to evict mapped pages ruins interactive performance.
> 
> Is everything here on NFS, or are local filesystemms involved?  (What does
> "mount" say?)

    # mount
    rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
    /dev/root on / type nfs (rw,v2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,udp,nolock,addr=192.168.8.1)
    proc on /proc type proc (rw)
    devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)

I've been wondering if the swappiness isn't a red herring.  Is it
reasonable that the distress value (in refill_inactive_zones ()) be
50?


  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-17 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-17 19:38 vmscan.c heuristic adjustment for smaller systems William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-17 21:29 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 21:33   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-17 21:52     ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  1:06       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-18  5:05         ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 23:21   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-17 23:30     ` Marc Singer [this message]
2004-04-17 23:51       ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-18  0:11         ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-18  0:23         ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  3:37           ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18  4:17             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-18  4:41               ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18  5:10                 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  5:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18  5:35                     ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  5:41                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18 23:44                         ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  9:29           ` Russell King
2004-04-18  1:59         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-18  3:53           ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-18  5:38             ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  5:52               ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-18  6:15                 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-19  0:26                   ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-19  0:39                     ` Marc Singer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-18 17:48 Marc Singer
     [not found] <20040418174743.GC28744@flea>
     [not found] ` <20040418175324.GB743@holomorphy.com>
2004-04-18 18:06   ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18 19:05     ` William Lee Irwin III

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