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From: Grant Grundler <iod00d@hp.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: mmap() of /dev/kmem issue
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 15:36:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040505153656.GD9752@cup.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4097C51D.71EA0BEA@email.mot.com>

On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 09:57:41AM -0500, Mario Smarduch wrote:
> But there are cases where
> kernel values just need to be read timely.

Watching kernel data from userspace is an impossible task.
Unless one has a "real time" scheduler and *halts* all kernel
activity, the kernel values visible to user space will lag
what the kernel does. Something like KGDB can do that.
It's not something I expect to work correctly.
Ergo define an interface (eg gettimeofday() or /proc/sys/kernel/*)
to get "sane" values and move on.

> As things
> are right now you can still corrupt the kernel but
> are unable to do anything useful because of attribute
> aliasing to that range. Perhaps a rejection of mapping
> such regions for writes should be imposed,

Maybe. I don't understand the VM well enough.

> but I'm
> not sure how mapping it as uncachable helps?
> To me this behaviour seems buggy.

I'm still inclined to think the approach is wrong.
Maybe you have a better test case that doesn't involve user
interaction and shows why the data has to come from /dev/kmem?

grant

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-05 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-04 16:30 mmap() of /dev/kmem issue Mario Smarduch
2004-05-04 17:05 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2004-05-04 17:19 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 18:12 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-04 20:29 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 22:15 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-04 22:27 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-04 23:59 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-05 14:57 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-05 15:08 ` Luck, Tony
2004-05-05 15:36 ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2004-05-05 15:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-05-05 15:49 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-05 15:53 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-05 16:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-05-05 16:18 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-05 16:32 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-05 16:42 ` Mario Smarduch
2004-05-05 16:44 ` Luck, Tony
2004-05-05 16:57 ` Mario Smarduch

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