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From: Steven Cole <elenstev@mesatop.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, adi@bitmover.com, scole@lanl.gov,
	support@bitmover.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:12:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405162012.57066.elenstev@mesatop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040516235310.GZ3044@dualathlon.random>

On Sunday 16 May 2004 05:53 pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 04:11:16PM -0600, Steven Cole wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 May 2004 03:29 pm, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Steven Cole <elenstev@mesatop.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, although the regression for my particular machine for this
> > > >  particular load may be interesting, the good news is that I've seen
> > > >  none of the failures which started this whole thread, which are relatively
> > > >  easily reproduceable with PREEMPT set.  
> > > 
> > > So...  would it be correct to say that with CONFIG_PREEMPT, ppp or its
> > > underlying driver stack
> > > 
> > > a) screws up the connection and hangs and
> > > 
> > > b) scribbles on pagecache?
> > > 
> > > Because if so, the same will probably happen on SMP.
> > > 
> > Perhaps someone has the hardware to test this.
> > 
> > To summarize my experience with the past 24 hours of testing:
> > Without PREEMPT , everything is rock solid. 
> 
> so we've two separate problems: the first is the ppp instability with
> preempt, the second is a regresion in the vm heuristics between 2.6.3
> and 2.6.5.
Yes, that is correct.
The instability was first noticed about one month ago when doing
a bk pull from linus' repository.  I've been updating my kernel via
bk almost nightly, and around the time of 2.6.6-rc1 (IIRC), I got the
Assertion `s && s->tree' failed message from bk.  At first it was thought
to be related to using an older version (3.0.1) of bk, so that was updated.
A few days later, the problem recurred.  Since it only happened about
15% to 20% of the time, and was easy to recover from, I didn't scream
too loudly or too often to bitmover.  But then, the problem started becoming
more persistent about a week ago, so I began complaining again.  I managed
to get a bitkeeper-generated file to bitmover, who discovered that a very
odd (or even in this case) number of NUL bytes existed where they 
should not exist.  Hence this thread.

Then during the course of testing, I noticed the significant difference
in time it took to run a test script supplied by bitkeeper for current kernels
versus an older vendor kernel.  Hence your being cc'ed.


> 
> > and I (cringes at the thought) may repeat some bk pulls with
> > PREEMPT set.
> 
> I've heard other reports of preempt being unstable with some sound
> stuff, just in case are you using sound drivers at all during that
> workload?
> 
> 
Yes, mea culpa.  CONFIG_SND_ENS1371=y.  

Steven

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-17  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <6616858C-A5AF-11D8-A7EA-000A95CC3A8A@lanl.gov>
     [not found] ` <200405122234.06902.elenstev@mesatop.com>
     [not found]   ` <15594C37-A509-11D8-A7EA-000A95CC3A8A@lanl.gov>
     [not found]     ` <20040513183316.GE17965@bitmover.com>
2004-05-14  4:32       ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Steven Cole
     [not found]         ` <20040514144617.GE20197@work.bitmover.com>
     [not found]           ` <200405131723.15752.elenstev@mesatop.com>
2004-05-14 16:53             ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Andy Isaacson
2004-05-14 17:23               ` Steven Cole
2004-05-15  0:54               ` Steven Cole
2004-05-15  1:55                 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-15  3:15               ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Lincoln Dale
2004-05-15  3:41                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-15  5:39                   ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  1:23                   ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  2:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16  3:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16  4:31                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  4:52                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16  5:22                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-16 15:28                               ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 17:49                                 ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2004-05-16 20:38                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-16 21:19                                   ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 21:29                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 22:11                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 23:53                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-17  2:12                                           ` Steven Cole [this message]
2004-05-17  8:21                                         ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-16  5:54                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  6:09                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16  6:24                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 10:01                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 13:49                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18  1:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-16  3:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16  3:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  2:28                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17  2:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  3:36                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17  5:17                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  6:11                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 13:56                               ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-17 15:17                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-17 15:20                                   ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:22                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 15:25                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:37                                     ` viro
2004-05-17 17:30                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 17:40                                         ` viro
2004-05-17 17:39                                           ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 19:06                                             ` viro
2004-05-17 15:40                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-17 15:53                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 16:23                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-17 16:28                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-17 14:07                               ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:12                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  7:25                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17  7:46                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17  8:39                                 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-05-17  8:44                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 11:58                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 14:05                               ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:14                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:32                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 14:52                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:02                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 15:05                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:23                                     ` Chris Mason
2004-05-17 15:49                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 20:24                                       ` Chris Mason
2004-05-17 21:08                                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 21:29                                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 22:15                                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 23:52                                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18  0:03                                               ` Chris Mason
2004-05-18  0:15                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18  0:13                                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18  0:45                                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18  1:34                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-18  1:42                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18  1:56                                                     ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 14:11                         ` Larry McVoy
     [not found]         ` <200405172142.52780.elenstev@mesatop.com>
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0405172056480.25502@ppc970.osdl.org>
     [not found]             ` <200405172319.38853.elenstev@mesatop.com>
2004-05-18 12:42               ` Chris Mason
2004-05-18 14:29                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18 14:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-19 10:53                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 12:10                   ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 12:20                     ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-19 12:42                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-19 13:28                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 13:36                           ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 13:59                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 14:03                               ` Wayne Scott
2004-05-19 14:08                               ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 14:20                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 14:45                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 21:11                                 ` Non-regression for current kernel (was Re: 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page?) Steven Cole
2004-05-17 15:35 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Albert Cahalan

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