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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: braam <braam@clusterfs.com>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"'Phil Schwan'" <phil@clusterfs.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] Lustre VFS patch
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:27:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040525082704.GL1952@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040525082305.BAEE93101A0@moraine.clusterfs.com>

On Tue, May 25 2004, braam wrote:
> Jens,
> 
> I think do answer your question:  
> ...
> > > If we were to return errors, (which, I agree, _seems_ much 
> > more sane, 
> > > and we _did_ try that for a while!) then there is a good chance, 
> > > namely immediately when something is flushed to disk, that 
> > the system 
> > > will detect the errors and not continue to execute 
> > transactions making 
> > > consistent testing of our replay mechanisms impossible.
> 
> So: we can use the flags, but we cannot return the errors.

The generic_make_request() change itself is fine, as long as the proper
error is propagated back. I don't object to that at all, and I outlined
that to Phil last week as well. So in short:

        if (bio_data_dir(bio) == WRITE && bdev_read_only(bio->bi_bdev)) {
                bio_endio(bio, bio->bi_size, -EROFS);
                break;
        }

If you want to pass back 0 instead, then that would be a one-liner in
your (private) debugging patch. Ok?

> > And if this it to make sense for inclusion, io _must_ be 
> > ended with -EROFS or similar.
> > 
> > It seems to me that this probably belongs in your test 
> > harness for debugging purposes. At least in its current state 
> > it's not acceptable for inclusion.
> 
> This is, as I mentioned, only for testing.  It is, clearly, NOT ordinary
> system behavior at all since we don't, and won't, return the error. 
> 
> Some people find it very convenient to have this available, but if the
> opinion is that it is better to let development teams manage their own
> testing infrastructure that is acceptable to me.

I don't think this change makes sense as written for the generic
kernels, not if you want to simply ignore the write. If that is the
case, it's a special case debug entry for a very narrow use (ie lustre).

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-25  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-24 11:39 [PATCH/RFC] Lustre VFS patch Peter J. Braam
2004-05-24 11:46 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-25  1:48   ` braam
2004-05-25  6:47     ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-25  8:21       ` braam
2004-05-25  8:27         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2004-05-25 10:52         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-05-25 11:45           ` braam
2004-05-25 13:35           ` Kevin Corry
2004-05-25 13:55             ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-24 12:00 ` hch
2004-05-24 12:01 ` hch
2004-05-24 12:03 ` hch
2004-05-24 15:33   ` Horst von Brand
2004-05-25 20:43     ` hch
2004-05-24 12:05 ` hch
2004-05-24 18:06   ` Trond Myklebust
2004-05-25  8:21     ` braam
2004-05-24 12:08 ` hch
2004-05-24 13:44   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-24 13:53     ` viro
2004-05-28 16:56     ` braam
2004-05-28 17:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-24 14:19 ` viro
2004-05-28 23:18 ` Maneesh Soni
2004-05-29 17:53 ` Anton Blanchard

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