From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Sau Dan Lee <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BUG FIX: atkbd.c keyboard driver bug [Was: keyboard problem with 2.6.6]
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 11:55:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040601095518.GA1527@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xb7iseb7gtv.fsf@savona.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 11:44:44AM +0200, Sau Dan Lee wrote:
> >>>>> "bugme-daemon" == bugme-daemon <bugme-daemon@osdl.org> writes:
>
> bugme-daemon> http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2808
> bugme-daemon> vojtech@suse.cz changed:
>
> bugme-daemon> What |Removed |Added
> bugme-daemon> ----------------------------------------------------
> bugme-daemon> Status|NEW |REJECTED
> bugme-daemon> Resolution| |INVALID
>
> Vojtech> I'm sorry you can't use the fn+printscreen function on
> Vojtech> your LifeBook, but such is life.
>
> Disappointed.
>
> Vojtech> Is using Alt+printscreen such a big difference?
>
> That means I need to press FOUR keys to use sysrq, because PrintScreen
> is only available via [Fn]. That becomes [Fn]+Alt+PrintScreen+X,
> where "X" is the sysrq function. :(
>
>
> Vojtech> On USB keyboards (and many others, too), there is no
> Vojtech> specific SysRq keycode, and thus the kernel magic-sysrq
> Vojtech> handler uses the alt-printscreen combination, to make it
> Vojtech> work on ALL keyboards. This is intentional.
>
> Isn't the keyboard driver supposed to iron out such differences?
The atkbd.c driver does exactly that. It hides the fact that there is a
special scancode for the PrintScreen key, if you press it together with
some other keys.
There is no special scancode on any other keyboard type for it,
including PS/2 keyboards in their native Set3 mode.
It's a hack by IBM engineers, the PC/XT keyboard had a SysRq key, the
PC/AT keyboard did not, yet some old DOS programs needed it, so they
made the AT keyboard generate the keycode for alt-sysrq when running in
XT compatibility mode.
Unfortunately, the XT compatibility mode stuck, and that's what we're
using now.
> Isn't it your philosophy that the drivers should know the devices
> well, and present a consistent interface to the upper layers? Then,
> the correct way to do it is:
>
> USB keyboard driver: generate a "sysrq" event in reaction to
> Alt-PrintScreen
> AT/PS2 keyboard driver: generate a "sysrq" when receiving a
> 0x54 keycode
>
> The kernel keyboard handler shouldn't see or bother about the
> difference. It is insane that the handler has to care about the
> status of the Alt keys.
The kernel works with real keys. There is no real sysrq key. My
definition of sanity is to base your thinking on reality where possible.
> Vojtech> Further, keycode 99 is KEY_SYSRQ, as defined in input.h,
>
> Then, why use it for PrintScreen? With the 'evbug' facility, I see a
> keyboard event with code KEY_SYSRQ when I press PrintScreen. Just
> PrintScreen, not Alt-PrintScreen. So, this is a feature and not a
> bug?
Ok, it's probably a bad name for it, it should have been named
KEY_PRTSCR, but it wasn't, and it'd only cause breakage now to change
it.
> Vojtech> and is used for the PrtScr/SysRq key.
>
> So, why not have seperate keycodes for the two?
Because there is only one key.
--
Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-01 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-07 20:55 [PATCH] SERIO_USERDEV: direct userspace access to mouse/keyboard psaux serial ports Tuukka Toivonen
2004-05-08 2:35 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-25 20:16 ` keyboard problem with 2.6.6 Chris Osicki
2004-05-26 7:54 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-28 13:33 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-05-28 17:37 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-29 13:12 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 9:45 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 10:19 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 11:25 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 11:40 ` Brad Campbell
2004-05-30 12:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-05-30 12:22 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 12:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-05-30 12:16 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 12:40 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 12:52 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 16:09 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-05-30 17:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-06-04 13:58 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-04 18:17 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-04 18:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-04 19:33 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-04 19:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-04 20:48 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-04 18:39 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-04 18:46 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-04 19:09 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-06 9:01 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-06 16:40 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-28 19:39 ` 2.6.* useland replacements of the atkbd and psmouse modules Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-28 19:57 ` keyboard problem with 2.6.6 Andries Brouwer
2004-06-01 8:21 ` BUG: atkbd.c keyboard driver bug [Was: keyboard problem with 2.6.6] Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-01 9:13 ` BUG FIX: " Sau Dan Lee
[not found] ` <200406010904.i5194pSo010367@fire-2.osdl.org>
2004-06-01 9:44 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-01 9:55 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2004-06-01 10:03 ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-01 12:42 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-05-28 19:41 ` keyboard problem with 2.6.6 Andries Brouwer
2004-05-28 20:10 ` Andries Brouwer
[not found] ` <20040528214620.GA2352@gucio>
2004-05-29 13:23 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-05-29 13:46 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-29 14:30 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-05-29 14:41 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-29 15:12 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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