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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>
Cc: albertogli@telpin.com.ar, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Syncing a file's metadata in a portable way
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:14:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040710131459.13ffec23.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040710115404.GA11420@outpost.ds9a.nl>

bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 02:39:48AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > It depends on the Linux filesystem.  On ext3, for example, fsync() will
> > sync all of the filesytem's metadata (and data in journalled and ordered
> > data mode).
> 
> I've noticed that on ext3, SQLite transactions are nearly useless, with the
> smallest transactions causing 5 megabyte/s writout activity based on
> relatively small writes. kjournald bore a large part of that according to
> laptop_mode's block dump.

If only the one file has been written to, an fsync on ext3 shouldn't
produce any more writeout than an fsync on ext2.

If there are other files on the same fs which have been written to then
they will be accidentally fsynced too, unless you're using data=writeback.

Either that, or SQLite is broken.

> Do we actually need to flush the journal on fsync? I'm no fs theorist but I
> wonder if having data in the journal isn't good enough - in case of failure,
> the data will be there on recovery?

fsync in ordered data mode will sync file data to the main fs and will sync
metadata tothe journal.  It will not sync previously-journalled metadata
back to the main fs, because that's not required for a succesful recovery.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-10 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-09  3:06 Syncing a file's metadata in a portable way Alberto Bertogli
2004-07-09  9:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-10 11:54   ` bert hubert
2004-07-10 20:14     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-07-11 10:27       ` bert hubert
2004-07-11 10:35         ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 14:19           ` Alberto Bertogli

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