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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Instrumenting high latency
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:34:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040712003418.02997a12.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1089613755.742689.28499.502@pc.kolivas.org>

Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
>
> He hacked 
>  together this simple patch which times periods according to the preempt 
>  count.

OK, small problem.  We have code which does, effectively,

	if (need_resched()) {
		drop_the_lock();
		schedule();
		grab_the_lock();
	}

so if need_resched() stays false then this will hold the lock for a long
time and bogus reports are generated:

46ms non-preemptible critical section violated 1 ms preempt threshold starting at exit_mmap+0x26/0x188 and ending at exit_mmap+0x154/0x188

To fix that you need to generate high scheduling pressure so that
need_resched() is frequently true.  On all CPUs.  Modify realfeel to pin
itself to each CPU, or something like that.

This rather decreases the patch's usefulness.

The way I normally do this stuff is with

	http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/rtc-debug.patch

and `amlat', from http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/amlat.tar.gz


It _might_ be sufficient to redefine need_resched() to just return 1 all
the time.  If that causes the kernel to livelock then we need to fix that
up anyway.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-12  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-12  6:29 [PATCH] Instrumenting high latency Con Kolivas
2004-07-12  6:37 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12  6:43   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12  6:58     ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12  7:00   ` [PATCH] " William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12  7:34 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-07-12  8:02   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12  8:38     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 11:31       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 14:32         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 17:09         ` Martin Josefsson
2004-07-12  8:29   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-12  8:42     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12  8:47       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 10:41 ` Rajput
2004-07-12 10:44   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-12 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-12 14:27   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 14:33     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-12 14:42       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 14:47         ` Martin J. Bligh

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