From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265127AbUGNTBn (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:01:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265139AbUGNTBm (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:01:42 -0400 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.63.102]:27623 "EHLO pimout3-ext.prodigy.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265127AbUGNTBc (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:01:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:00:46 -0700 From: Chris Wedgwood To: Anton Ertl Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Knutar , L A Walsh Subject: Re: XFS: how to NOT null files on fsck? Message-ID: <20040714190046.GA21187@taniwha.stupidest.org> References: <20040713203246.GB6614@taniwha.stupidest.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 08:49:03PM +0200, Anton Ertl wrote: > If a free block was last allocated to a file belonging to user U, > then it may be ok (it's not a security problem) to put the block in > a file belonging to user U on recovery; if not, then it's certainly > not ok to put it into such a file without erasing it first. that's still a big security problem, consider files with restricted paths all of a sudden appearing or globally visible root-owned files appearing with old root-only data in them > I have never seen Emacs lose data from crashing or (more frequently) > being killed. Do you have an idea what went wrong in your case and > how they no idea, for a while it would segfault when you resized the window and you would loose everthing, (no crash handler to attempt to save things i guess) > Take a look at . apples and oranges > BTW, the way my current hardware acts up, system crashes are more > frequent than application crashes, and certainly more frequent than > applications behaving badly. you need new hardware or a new system then this entire thread is dragging on and seems to have become a religious discussion about how XFS should because various people don't like it's current behavior despite the way things have worked that way for many many years i don't care if people use XFS or not, there are plenty of alternatives