From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267386AbUG2AWe (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:22:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267378AbUG2AUo (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:20:44 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:34281 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267370AbUG2AS5 (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:18:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:22:04 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Alan Cox Cc: ebiederm@xmission.com, suparna@in.ibm.com, fastboot@osdl.org, mbligh@aracnet.com, jbarnes@engr.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Fastboot] Re: Announce: dumpfs v0.01 - common RAS output API Message-Id: <20040728172204.2ecc5cdd.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <1091055311.31923.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <16734.1090513167@ocs3.ocs.com.au> <20040725235705.57b804cc.akpm@osdl.org> <200407280903.37860.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> <25870000.1091042619@flay> <20040728133337.06eb0fca.akpm@osdl.org> <1091044742.31698.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1091055311.31923.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alan Cox wrote: > > On Iau, 2004-07-29 at 00:17, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > What is your concern with stopping DMA? > > - Not smashing the recovery routine. > > - Getting a corrupted core dump because of on-going DMA? > > Completely random happenings occurring when they are trivial to avoid. > Given all the worries about SHA signed in kernel standalone objects I > find it farcical that the same people don't even care about ensuring > something isnt DMAing over their dump partition description. > eh? People do care. The point here is that we should stop the DMA in the dump kernel, not from within the broken kernel. btw, if we simply insert a five-second-pause, what problems does that leave? Network Rx, which is OK. Disk writes will have completed (?). What remains?