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From: "Jim Buttafuoco" <jim@contactbda.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 1x 3ware controllers vs. 2x 3ware controllers
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:53:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040730234706.M12321@contactbda.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407301717.36583.mrwatts@fast24.co.uk>

I second Marks comment on NOT recommending the 3ware cards to anyone.  

I have a dual XEON 3.2 Ghz system 12 G of ram with a 3ware 8506-8 in it (8 250 G drives).  The hard raid performance 
was very bad.  with the load avg going over 40.  I then switched over to JBOD and software raid.  The IO wait times 
are really high and the performance sucks.  Very hard to explain to my boss where the $20k went. The system is a 
database server (postgres).  I tried both kernel 2.4 and 2.6 with the same problem.  I am now in the process of 
testing the adaptec raid controller.  


Jim
    

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Mark Watts <mrwatts@fast24.co.uk>
To: Marc Bevand <bevand_m@epita.fr>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Sent: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:17:36 +0100
Subject: Re: 1x 3ware controllers vs. 2x 3ware controllers

> > Mark Watts wrote:
> > > With the performance issues I'm seeing with the 8506-4LP's I have, I
> > > wouldn't recommend them to anyone currently...
> > >
> > > The thread on LKML from a few days ago about mke2fs -j and 8506-4LP says
> > > it all, but basically and reasonable amount of I/O brings a Dual Opteron
> > > system to its knees.
> > > And by reasonable I mean copying ISO images from a usb2 drive to a raid 5
> > > (4 x 250GB maxtor) or even just formatting a 600MB partition.
> >
> > I would be interested to see the output of 'vmstat 1' while your system is
> > so slow.
> >
> > IMHO you shouldn't draw such conclusion ("reasonable amount of I/O brings a
> > Dual Opteron system to its knees") from your particular case. The 3 HT
> > links of the Opteron make this CPU particularly adapted to I/O operations.
> 
> Well its the only conclusion I *can* come to at this time.
> When you move from a UP 1.8Ghz P4 with single EIDE disks to SMP Opteron with 4 
> times the ram and a hardware raid card, you tend to assume that performance 
> in all areas will go up.
> When it doesn't, and you find yourself watching screen redraws while you 
> format a 600GB partition (ext3) you do feel the need to blame something :)
> 
> I'm all ears for suggestions on what me be wrong or things I can try to 
> improve performance.
> 
> >
> > Personnaly, on a dual Opteron, I am able to read datas from 4 SATA disks at
> > about 225 MB/s, with CPU time used at about 32%, awd with a system still
> > reasonably responsive.
> 
> I'm seeing ~80MB/sec reading from the 3ware raid-5 according to hdparm and 
> bonnie++
> Write performance is around 25MB/sec according to bonnie++.
> 
> Mark.
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-30 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-30  3:53 1x 3ware controllers vs. 2x 3ware controllers Adam Hunt
2004-07-30  4:50 ` Scott T. Smith
2004-07-30  6:45 ` Luca Berra
2004-07-30  7:15 ` Mark Watts
2004-07-30  7:22   ` Mark Watts
2004-07-30  8:14   ` Scott T. Smith
2004-07-30 15:00   ` Marc Bevand
2004-07-30 16:17     ` Mark Watts
2004-07-30 23:53       ` Jim Buttafuoco [this message]
2004-07-31  8:49         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-07-31 14:24           ` Jon Lewis
2004-07-31 16:28             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-07-31 16:42               ` Mark Watts
2004-07-31 17:40                 ` Jurriaan
2004-08-01  7:00                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-08-01  7:08                     ` Gordon Henderson
2004-08-01  9:18                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-08-01  9:51                         ` Mark Watts
2004-08-01 12:11                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-08-01 15:01                             ` Mark Watts
2004-08-01 15:10                               ` Jim Buttafuoco
2004-08-01 15:27                               ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-08-01 15:33                                 ` Mark Watts
2004-08-01 17:18                                   ` Gordon Henderson
2004-08-02 12:54                                     ` Mark Watts
2004-08-02 13:04                                       ` Gordon Henderson
2004-08-02  9:40                                 ` Mark Watts
2004-08-03  1:58                       ` [RAID] " Julian Cowley
2004-08-03  2:05                         ` Definition of hotswap, was " Scott T. Smith
2004-08-03 11:55                           ` Tim Small
2004-08-22 17:52                             ` Maurice Hilarius
2004-08-03 11:47                         ` Software vs. Hardware RAID Tim Small
2004-08-03 15:58                           ` Ricky Beam
2004-08-01 15:06           ` 1x 3ware controllers vs. 2x 3ware controllers Jim Buttafuoco
2004-08-01 15:24             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-08-01 17:57               ` Scott T. Smith
2004-08-01 19:28                 ` David Greaves
2004-08-01 22:32                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2004-08-02 18:02                     ` Mark Hahn
2004-08-02 18:07                       ` Scott T. Smith
2004-08-01 17:53             ` Scott T. Smith
2004-08-02 10:22               ` what is the best multi-SATA-controller-on-a-single-board out there? Tim Small
2004-08-02 21:09                 ` Jon Lewis
2004-08-02 22:48                   ` robin-lists
2004-08-03  8:55                   ` Tim Small
2004-08-03 17:45                     ` Jon Lewis
2004-08-04  8:24                       ` Tim Small
2004-07-31 13:11         ` 1x 3ware controllers vs. 2x 3ware controllers Joshua Baker-LePain
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-30 10:16 Mark Watts
2004-07-30 12:59 ` Joshua Baker-LePain
2004-07-30 13:24   ` Mark Watts
2004-07-30 13:30     ` Joshua Baker-LePain
2004-07-31  8:44 ` Mikael Abrahamsson

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